Extremely strange sync problem

[alan2008]

Hi folks, I'm new to these boards, so please forgive me if I sound a little stupid. Anyway, I've been a Desktop owner since the Summer and I still haven't got my Virus working properly. I only discovered these forums recently so I hope I'll get some good advice from you folks!

Right, back to the point. I own FL studio 8 and I have the Demo Version of Live 7, however, in each sequencer the Virus won't play in sync. It's nothing to do with PDC by the way, the Virus actually sounds like a Glitch machine or something... Can anyone please help me or give me advice on what to do? I've tried forum search, though I couldn't find anyone with a similar problem. When I first load up Virus Control and play something, it works fine, but after a few seconds everything basically goes haywire. Say for example I play an arp on a pluck sound, it will stay in sync for around 5 seconds and then all of a sudden go crazy!

Please, any help would be great. I've had my Virus for about 3 months and still haven't been able to use it :( :(

Thanks in advance people, all advice is more than welcome!

[Monobeat]

Sounds to me like you may have an older OS, I had similar problems with an earlier OS......

Questions for you:

1. What is PDC?

2. Are you using Virus Control? If so, have you tried just hooking up your Virus via midi, not using Virus control, and testing it that way?

3. If you load a simple pad and hold a chord, will you hear a chord, or something "crazy"?

4. Does the patch you have loaded say atomizer on it?

5. Have you updated your Virus to the newest operating system? If not, go to www.access-music.de and download OS 2.7.3.

6. Do you like hamburgers or marshmellows?

[alan2008]

Sounds to me like you may have an older OS, I had similar problems with an earlier OS......

Questions for you:

1. What is PDC?

2. Are you using Virus Control? If so, have you tried just hooking up your Virus via midi, not using Virus control, and testing it that way?

3. If you load a simple pad and hold a chord, will you hear a chord, or something "crazy"?

4. Does the patch you have loaded say atomizer on it?

5. Have you updated your Virus to the newest operating system? If not, go to www.access-music.de (http://www.access-music.de) and download OS 2.7.3.

6. Do you like hamburgers or marshmellows?

Hey man, thanks a lot for replying.

1. It's set to 92.36 I think, or something along those lines.

2. I'm running it through USB at the moment, haven't tried MIDI yet.

3. I'll hear the pad play normally and then all of a sudden go crazy again.

4. Nope

5. Yep, I used the newest OS. I even tried the older one on Live 7

6. Love both em :D

7. Thanks for taking time to help me out :p

[Monobeat]

Also, what is your audio buffer set to? I'd try 256, 512, 1024 and see if you have varying results....

Questions:

1. Define "PDC".
2. Define "Go Crazy".


To systematically troubleshoot I would... in Ableton....

*Open a new session without the virus control, or just delete the plugin.
*Route your midi track to Virus Synth... (this takes advantage of USB midi)
*Make sure your patch is set to Out 1+2 in the common section.
*This should produce a perfect sound, without glitches.

If you have glitches with this setup, it may be a hardware problem.

If this works fine for you, then your computer is the problem... The Virus Control software is very stable now and should not be giving you the headaches anymore.

Different USB cable, different USB port, even try setting up on a different computer if you have the resources.

[alan2008]

Also, what is your audio buffer set to? I'd try 256, 512, 1024 and see if you have varying results....

Questions:

1. Define "PDC".
2. Define "Go Crazy".


To systematically troubleshoot I would... in Ableton....

*Open a new session without the virus control, or just delete the plugin.
*Route your midi track to Virus Synth... (this takes advantage of USB midi)
*Make sure your patch is set to Out 1+2 in the common section.
*This should produce a perfect sound, without glitches.

If you have glitches with this setup, it may be a hardware problem.

If this works fine for you, then your computer is the problem... The Virus Control software is very stable now and should not be giving you the headaches anymore.

Different USB cable, different USB port, even try setting up on a different computer if you have the resources.

The buffer is currently set to 1024, I'm using ASIO drivers.

1. PDC - Plugin delay compensation (which is basically when the instrument
takes too long to respond when a note is hit)

2. It's hard to define, it literally does go very glitchy and completely out of sync and stops for seconds at certain intervals, and this happens with any preset, even if it's just a simple pluck, something will still go wrong.

My demo version of Live is about to run out, I own FL 8 though, was actually thinking of switching to Cubase as it apparently handles hardware better. Anyway, It could be my current hardware. My PC's specs are terrible (1.25ghz, 512mb Ram), Although I've just ordered a new PC with 4gb of Ram and Core 2 Duo processor (3.16ghz), so maybe that might help...

By the way, I read somewhere that the new OS apparently doesn't work with FL studio 8? But I doubt that as it doesn't work for me on Live either...

Anyway, thanks a bunch for your help man, I'm useless when it comes to hardware :( Thanks again!

[alan2008]

Anymore ideas or advice folks? I'd highly appreciate it!

[CyberKenny]

Any progress on this? I just thought I needed to mention that my TI Snow goes bananas if the CPU usage gets too high on the computer when using FL Studio 8. None of the LFOs or arps syncs with the tempo anymore and random dropouts are heard. However, the 2.7.5 update works reasonably well as it seems that these issues are gone at my side. I stresstested it by loading up a fairly heavy project in FL Studio, filling in with CPUKiller and playing an intensive patch on the Virus (using all 4 parts on the Snow with hypersaws, the third osc, LFOs, arps, effects etc.) to be sure. Funny enough it played fine after the update with CPUKiller taking up to 99% of the processor on minimum latency for a minute or so, finally freezing up so I had to kill (haha :)) CPUKiller. To my amazement the Virus continued playing and have been doing so for the last ten minutes without a hitch while I have been adding more and more complexity to the song! :D

I was just wondering if you have had any luck with your new computer thinking by the way of lack of system resources or if something else is/was wrong?

[alan2008]

Any progress on this? I just thought I needed to mention that my TI Snow goes bananas if the CPU usage gets too high on the computer when using FL Studio 8. None of the LFOs or arps syncs with the tempo anymore and random dropouts are heard. However, the 2.7.5 update works reasonably well as it seems that these issues are gone at my side. I stresstested it by loading up a fairly heavy project in FL Studio, filling in with CPUKiller and playing an intensive patch on the Virus (using all 4 parts on the Snow with hypersaws, the third osc, LFOs, arps, effects etc.) to be sure. Funny enough it played fine after the update with CPUKiller taking up to 99% of the processor on minimum latency for a minute or so, finally freezing up so I had to kill (haha :)) CPUKiller. To my amazement the Virus continued playing and have been doing so for the last ten minutes without a hitch while I have been adding more and more complexity to the song! :D

I was just wondering if you have had any luck with your new computer thinking by the way of lack of system resources or if something else is/was wrong?

Hey, thanks for the reply dude. My new PC has arrived, now I just need internet access so I can download the OS. Theres a good chance it will run better though, as my old computer had 512mb Ram, while this one has 4Gb and also a way faster processor! I'll let you know how it goes when I'm setup. Thanks again for the reply :)

[galacticmonkey]

i have a powerful computer and still had sync problems with fl8 whether running it through usb or midi and from what i have read on various forums had led me to go and buy cubase 4(with being on vista) lets hope this works :)

[galacticmonkey]

i have a powerful computer and still had sync problems with fl8 whether running it through usb or midi and from what i have read on various forums had led me to go and buy cubase 4(with being on vista) lets hope this works!

[galacticmonkey]

Hey, thanks for the reply dude. My new PC has arrived, now I just need internet access so I can download the OS. Theres a good chance it will run better though, as my old computer had 512mb Ram, while this one has 4Gb and also a way faster processor! I'll let you know how it goes when I'm setup. Thanks again for the reply :)
i have a powerful computer and still had sync problems with fl8 whether running it through usb or midi and from what i have read on various forums had led me to go and buy cubase 4(with being on vista) lets hope this works!

[alan2008]

Hi folks, have a completely different problem now :( I never had this problem on my crappy PC...Anyway, I downloaded the latest OS and went forward to open it up In FL 8 and got the message "Please connect to Virus to a USB port now", or something along those lines. So I reconnected and still no use, so I then re installed the drivers and that seemed to work OK, but this time when I loaded it up, it said I needed to get the latest firmware :confused: Any advice would really be appreciated, I'm sure i'm missing an obvious point here. :(

Thanks very much in advance!

[alan2008]

Hi folks, have a completely different problem now :( I never had this problem on my crappy PC...Anyway, I downloaded the latest OS and went forward to open it up In FL 8 and got the message "Please connect to Virus to a USB port now", or something along those lines. So I reconnected and still no use, so I then re installed the drivers and that seemed to work OK, but this time when I loaded it up, it said I needed to get the latest firmware :confused: Any advice would really be appreciated, I'm sure i'm missing an obvious point here. :(

Thanks very much in advance!

Gonna bump this, sorry!

[Ronkaz]

make sure you did not accidentially moved around the plugin dll

r

[suzzymackenzie]

make sure you did not accidentially moved around the plugin dll

r

Yep, do check that, cos finding the .dll that the installer had in fact placed on my hard disk and putting it in the 'right' folder got me running again with Cubase after the OS update :)

[Ronkaz]

you should use the selection in the installer!

r

[alan2008]

you should use the selection in the installer!

r

Thanks for replying folks.

I'm a newcomer to hardware synths though, so if you went into more detail I would greatly appreciate it. I've had my Virus since the Summer and haven't used it once! When I turn the computer on, it reads the USB connection fine, but it's when I load it up as a VST in my DAW (FL Studio 8).

Any more help would be excellent! Thanks very much.

[alan2008]

Perhaps I should contact technical support about this. I just can't see any problems, although I'm sure that I've been missing an obvious point. :( :confused: