Is the TI 2 Imminent?

[Totty]

Hi guys,

Just been mulling it over. I wonder when a new Virus is gonna appear. I mean the TI has been out since 05 hasn't it... I'm sure someone knows here, doubt they'll say. But then I thought, the TI OS is still awaiting the USB side-chain input for Atomizer, would Access still release this and then release a brand new machine. Ohh speculation!

[Timo]

Currently I have seen no signs suggesting a TI mk2 is imminent, other than the length of time the TI mk1 has been the 'flagship', which as you say is since 2005 (actually the Virus C was discontinued in 2004, but the roll-out of the TI was a long period). That said, Access have tended to release synths every 4 years, but the TI has had (and will continue to have) great longevity as it's a much more complex synth than the former Viruses.

However in two weeks we'll know one way or another. (Winter NAMM show 2009, 15-18th January).

Access tend to also release OS updates (mainly bugfixes and small feature updates) for their previous synths long after a new flagship range has been released.

However I doubt they'll discontinue the Snow any time soon (they only released it this time last year, and it seems very popular), and the Snow has the same OS to the TI... So the TI is still in good stead.

[Totty]

Cheers Timo, I hope you are right. Not that the TI isn't great, but it would be somewhat ironic if all the issues were ironed out just before a replacement!

I agree about the Snow, there's no way they would replace it, especially if it's doing well.

Mike

[Timo]

Hi Mike. :)

Not that the TI isn't great, but it would be somewhat ironic if all the issues were ironed out just before a replacement!

If that was the case they'd owe it to their customers to do so. But with so many different configurations in use out there, it'd be impossible to solve all of them.

I agree about the Snow, there's no way they would replace it, especially if it's doing well.

My thought is if/when a TI successor comes out, they'll stop production of the TI desktop, TI-kb and TI polar, but continue with the Snow as a "lite" version. This is merely supposition, however. But the Snow does appear to be quite popular, particularly with its small footprint and atomizer for DJs as well.

Winter Namm may be interesting this year.

Will they, or wont they...

T minus 15 days, and commencing.

[Totty]

Hi Timo!

Yes, it should be interesting, looking forward to it, just don't release a new TI Access!!

My configuration is running pretty well of late. Latest OS and all on a Mac-Pro. There are some annoying things I have noticed and mentioned before, http://www.Infekted.org/virus/showthread.php?t=29383 Quantized notes sound un-quantized</a> but I haven't raised it in support yet. The main issue is when you use the TI in VC and use more than one channel or a few voices. On an example - I make a recursive modulation to the filter envelope delay via filter envelope. Play one note, it sounds tight, play four, the decay skips and sounds wrong. It seems to me as if Access are pushing dynamic processor allocation too far.

I used to have a Virus Indigo2 and I cannot remember if this happened here too... Also modulating a formant shift via a monophonic lfo should cycle smoothly. I find if you add another part the modulation starts to skip and step randomly.

It's easy to say don't use these functions, but it's a bloody synthesizer!

Anyhow, rant over. I'm looking forward to something cool next year. Happy New Year in advance everyone :)

Mike

[spindlenine]

I hope they don't release anything that makes my Polar look dated, since I just got it last month. :)

Just kidding... who cares? Regardless of what they might come out with, the TI will still rock the house!

- max

[waxahachie]

I hope they don't release anything that makes my Polar look dated, since I just got it last month. :)

Just kidding... who cares? Regardless of what they might come out with, the TI will still rock the house!

- max

Absolutely. I have one old piece of crap Virus Classic desktop and sounds with incredible quality even better to the young Waldorf Blofeld.

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

TI MKII will be announced on Sunday 18 January at 10am

Cheers

DS

[Pighood]

TI MKII will be announced on Sunday 18 January at 10am

Cheers

DS

Ha ha Ho Ho Hi Hi Hu Hu

[Oscar later]

I work in music retail and brought my Polar a Couple of weeks ago after asking the nice people @ Kemper Digital weather a new Virus was goin to be realeased @ Namm..........

They said they had no plans @ the moment to release a new model...

Seems a bit vague to me , I think they are all sworn not to tell.

Fingers crossed!!!!:wink:

[marc]

TI MKII will be announced on Sunday 18 January at 10am

Cheers

DS

unlikely. it's AM.

marc

[cYrus]

hey marc,

any comment about why a lot of major stores (sweetwater, ..) have dropped the TI line from their online stores?

[LivePsy]

Ignore my signature for right now :) What more features could a Virus have, unless its something 100% software or closer to a G2 modular and the hardware interface no longer tries to keep up with the parameters.

I still expect that whatever comes from Acces next will not replace your current Virus.

And I'm never wrong...

[marc]

hey marc,

any comment about why a lot of major stores (sweetwater, ..) have dropped the TI line from their online stores?

others show it, maybe those don't have any?

marc

[waxahachie]

I work in music retail and brought my Polar a Couple of weeks ago after asking the nice people @ Kemper Digital weather a new Virus was goin to be realeased @ Namm..........

They said they had no plans @ the moment to release a new model...

Seems a bit vague to me , I think they are all sworn not to tell.

Fingers crossed!!!!:wink:

We will find it out is few days.
Anyways if the TI keyb is $3000 to $3200 how much Access pretend for a new model? maybe $5000?

[cYrus]

others show it, maybe those don't have any?

marc

according to other boards sweetwater told that the TI is a discontinued product.

we will see :)

[Timo]

Ha ha Ho Ho Hi Hi Hu Hu

Access have always waited until the very end of NAMM before they announce something, so the Sunday is actually a very good bet.

...If they are to announce something, that is. :)

[Pighood]

I thought it was a joke.

Perhaps the strange behaviour of my TI had a deeper meaning.

[LivePsy]

The best joke is marc's comment about a Sunday morning announcement "unlikely. it's AM." Very funny marc!

B

[Totty]

Oh dear! Shall i sell my TI in preparation... or do I hold out. It's so hard cos i would get more money now if I sold it arrhhhhh!:mrgreen:

[Ceri JC]

I got my Snow new for £660 (including the £100 money off vouchers I got free). I can't see it going much cheaper than that any time soon, irrespective of any new TI models being revealed. Particularly as I imagine any replacement for the TI range will replace the Polar/Keyboard as the 'full on' premium version, whereas the Snow will stay in its niche as the cut down/budget/portable Virus for some time yet.

[meisenhower]

I was wondering if something about a new model was in the air, given my recent experience in buying my new Virus.

I purchased my Virus Ti Kbd yesterday at Guitar Center. The keyboard guy indicated that they were no longer going to carry the Virus Ti at that particular store. The one they had was new, but had the OS 1.2.3 from Aug 06 and had been sitting since.

They put a "blowout" clearance sale price of $1319 (USD) and it was a total no brainer to buy it. I'll do the OS update today and should be golden.

That said, if a new model comes out, that will likely make a pretty big dent in any resale value for the one I just bought, but then again, considering what I paid for it, i don't see how I could get hurt.

Besides, I don't plan on selling anytime soon anyway.

[Totty]

I got my Snow new for £660 (including the £100 money off vouchers I got free). I can't see it going much cheaper than that any time soon, irrespective of any new TI models being revealed. Particularly as I imagine any replacement for the TI range will replace the Polar/Keyboard as the 'full on' premium version, whereas the Snow will stay in its niche as the cut down/budget/portable Virus for some time yet.

Yes if anything it'll be the TI/Polar Line, not the Snow. The Snow is a nice little earner for Access I'm sure.

[spindlenine]

If a new Virus comes out, I doubt the price will go up. They will probably do what Apple does when a product line is refreshed - keep the prices similar and discount the old models until they run out of the discontinued stock. From some of the posts here it sounds like they are discounting the old Virus TI out of the pipeline already, so that would indicate a new model on the horizon.

Incidentally, technology has a great way of getting cheaper and better over time. My original Mac Quicksilver G4 tower cost me $3,200 with a 933Mhz G4 processor, 512MB of RAM, and a 17" cinema display with 1280x1024 resolution. Today, you can buy a 2.8Ghz Quad-Core PowerMac with 2GB of RAM and a 20" cinema display with 1680x1050 resolution for $2,898 - and that's including seven year's worth of inflation and the staggering increases in energy costs. Taking inflation in to account at 3%/year, that's a hell of a lot more computer for about $1,000 less! :)

- max

[Timo]

The keyboard guy indicated that they were no longer going to carry the Virus Ti at that particular store. The one they had was new, but had the OS 1.2.3 from Aug 06 and had been sitting since.

Have they normally shifted lots of TI boxes (in the past)?

Turnkey in England was a huge retailer (primary distributor for Access in the UK) and had a mammoth clearance of Virus TIs this time last year (so much so I thought a TI mk2 was actually coming out that year), but it was simply that Turnkey was suffering from the economic nose-dive. They actually went into administration.

They put a "blowout" clearance sale price of $1319 (USD) and it was a total no brainer to buy it. I'll do the OS update today and should be golden.

That said, if a new model comes out, that will likely make a pretty big dent in any resale value for the one I just bought...

After it gets to a certain level, second hand viruses don't tend to depreciate further. They hold their values well as they are a respected and revered synth engine. The TI is a monster of a synth compared to the Virus C and earlier versions. $1319 is a very, very good price for new, and for what you get it is certainly worth that sum and would keep you going for years, regardless of what may (or may not) occur in the future.

Regards the Ti line.... To try to put a little of it into perspective, my guess on things, Access recently acquired www.VirusTI.com (the other forum that is no more... Actually I wonder how much it was sold for! Jammy buggers. :) ). Access would only have done that if they are/were to continue supporting the TI brand. I think the TI and any such TI mk2 would be more like siblings and their bond would be the Total Integration aspect. It appears the TI element is not going anywhere soon.

That said, the fact that Access have bought out VirusTi.com at this point in time, and that Marc stated a redesign of the Access website stands to be deployed very soon (within weeks), certainly points to an announcement at Namm.

[-X-]

A couple of dealers do not list the Virus TI anymore and Sweetwater has it as discontinued when you ask them. So, chances are there is a new TI2 in a week or so.

[IamEvil]

maybe the economy is slowling sales down to the point where importing the virus ti is too costly for them ?

if Access announce a new synth next week it looks like my Ti 61K is going to be up for grabs

[Doc Jones]

Interesting. Well one thing's for certain - it probably won't have usb 1.0 ports.










I hope.