View Full Version : Access Virus|TI2 and OS 3 Announced...
astuni
15.01.2009, 07:51 AM
http://www.access-music.de/events/2009-01/virus_ti2.html
just bought my snow and still have to receive it... i just hope the added features are supported by it too...
oh, btw, hi to everyone... :D im a newbie!
UPDATE: After a more complete look through the site - "The best news, however, is that OS3 is compatible with all legacy Virus TIs and the Virus TI Snow" YAY!
geofx
15.01.2009, 09:27 AM
I am not very excited with the..."new" Virus Ti series!:(
Ceri JC
15.01.2009, 09:33 AM
Yes, says OS3 should be available by the time you read this (it's not yet), so it should hopefully appear imminently. Can't wait to try it, I love tape delay; Only last night I was thinking how annoying it was I needed to make a note of my ER-20's settings in notes on a track, rather than being able to save it within the fx sections of the TI's patches. The "character" aspect sounds interesting too.
Ceri JC
15.01.2009, 09:36 AM
Ooooh, nice new VC skin. Looks more like a Snow/Polar than the classic virus red and black, very nice. Should help further psychologically blur the lines between the screen and the device. :D
Prime NL
15.01.2009, 09:46 AM
Cannot find what is exactly in OS3.....kan somebody give me the insights of it over here...:confused:
Ceri JC
15.01.2009, 10:13 AM
Cannot find what is exactly in OS3.....kan somebody give me the insights of it over here...:confused:
You want to go here:
http://www.access-music.de/events/2009-01/virus_ti2.html
Then go to "Videos", they detail lots of the new features.
IamEvil
15.01.2009, 10:31 AM
So it's just an OS update for all the Ti range ?
Not much in the way of added hardware apart from slightly boosted DSP power
I was expecting Firewire... Ti
oh well, atleast it doesn't devalue my Ti sale price too much
h4nc0
15.01.2009, 10:38 AM
I hope that it's 64bit compatible.
Totty
15.01.2009, 10:51 AM
So will OS3 be for the original TI, i haven't quite worked that one out:)
telson
15.01.2009, 11:01 AM
I am not very excited too ... :(
i prefer much more virus TI-1
cYrus
15.01.2009, 11:34 AM
so do the TI1 user get all the new software features aswell?! awesome! :D
Prime NL
15.01.2009, 11:34 AM
You want to go here:
http://www.access-music.de/events/2009-01/virus_ti2.html
Then go to "Videos", they detail lots of the new features.
Tx....looked over it...duh... :rolleyes:
Totty
15.01.2009, 12:29 PM
Unless i've missed it, I haven't seen mention that the original TI's do, but I should imagine they will...I hope!
Prime NL
15.01.2009, 12:49 PM
Maybe it's in the videos...???
Totty
15.01.2009, 12:51 PM
Hope so! I'm not buying a new one with that little difference, thats for sure!
Ceri JC
15.01.2009, 01:02 PM
Totty, it says in the text that all existing TI machines, including the Snow will support OS3.
plaid_emu
15.01.2009, 01:05 PM
My biggest concern is the quantizing/timing issues I'm still having with the original TI. Is OS 3.0 going to fix this or is the new MKII DSP the only hope? They have all this drivel in the new product PDF about "sample accurate MIDI timing". I only get accurate MIDI timing on 2/3 of the sounds. Other sounds and lots of arp patches are all out of whack. I don't think I'm alone on this either.
I'm starting to think Access jumped the gun here. They should've waited for USB 3.0 and added 50% more DSP power.
Totty
15.01.2009, 01:06 PM
Totty, it says in the text that all existing TI machines, including the Snow will support OS3.
My bad, sorry - in my hungry haste for info I skimmed that!! Hooray!!
Totty
15.01.2009, 01:07 PM
My biggest concern is the quantizing/timing issues I'm still having with the original TI. Is OS 3.0 going to fix this or is the new MKII DSP the only hope? They have all this drivel in the new product PDF about "sample accurate MIDI timing". I only get accurate MIDI timing on 2/3 of the sounds. Other sounds and lots of arp patches are all out of whack. I don't think I'm alone on this either.
I'm starting to think Access jumped the gun here. They should've waited for USB 3.0 and added 50% more DSP power.
Same here, timing isn't sample accurate here either. Here's hoping for a miracle cure in OS3
Doc Jones
15.01.2009, 01:08 PM
So the TI2 still uses usb1 connections. perplexing.
seanpace
15.01.2009, 01:16 PM
After watching the videos and learning of the new features and effects (ie. Sidechain input via USB :D :D :D) I am very happy with the way access have come out with this. Now all we need is for them to make it available/downloadable.
Doc Jones
15.01.2009, 01:31 PM
After watching the videos and learning of the new features and effects (ie. Sidechain input via USB :D :D :D)
ooooooohhhh. I didn't catch that. Very nice.
brambos
15.01.2009, 01:42 PM
Great news!!
My Virus is made of w00t!
:mrgreen:
seanpace
15.01.2009, 01:56 PM
its all good to know about it, but where is it, give it to us!! I just wanna test it out!!! - wats the bet they only release it on sunday hahaha
synthman1
15.01.2009, 02:05 PM
The revised TI line looks wonderful, but where is the Flash RAM for user definable multi-samples already???!!!!
I've only been requesting it since the Virus A! The trend is quickly moving in this direction with the capability to use samples in the Blofield Keyboard, Nord Wave and Solaris. More will follow and it makes sense. I really, hope Access final implemented this feature and just hasn't unveiled it yet.
Someone crack open a TI MKII and let us know if it's there!
Splat!
15.01.2009, 02:15 PM
w00t New OS3 looks brilliant.
I just got a Snow a month back :-)
Now hopefully Roland releases a V-synth GT OS update too...
EDIT: The pubic beta is out for download
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Aw man, the new VC looks awesome. I just got my snow and can't stand the look of the VC software, was hoping the interface would get an upgrade...
Just downloaded the 3.0 beta... Anyone try it out yet, a little weary about trying it out and killing my machine or something...
a public beta is available as of now.
here's a couple of things i'd like to mention: OS3 is available for the entire Ti series including the snow. we could have easy limited it to the new TI but we didn't for a simple reason. it's really old fashion and not beneficial for anybody (including us). so treat it as a gift :)
the TI is in for the long run, in other words - there will be updates to the entire series as long as it is technically feasible.
best regards,
marc
ps. our entire support team is on the NAMM. please understand that there might be increased turnaround times for the ticket for the next couple of days.
Splat!
15.01.2009, 02:39 PM
Thanks a lot Access Team. You guys are brilliant! :-D
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IamEvil
15.01.2009, 02:44 PM
trying to install the new OS3...
It loads the VC software but doesn't update the synths OS ?
any ideas?
h4nc0
15.01.2009, 02:45 PM
Thanks, marc. Downloading...
IamEvil, it updates fine here.
IamEvil
15.01.2009, 02:53 PM
I had to go into virus control centre and update from there...
seanpace
15.01.2009, 02:56 PM
Access & Marc thank you for keeping us in the light with this, as far as I'm concerned I'm very greatfull for Access's after sales customer service & support. You guys do a fantastic job and have solid CRM
With that said, Id like to hear feedback on OS 3 before i jump into it as I have a gig on saturday and cant afford any hickups ;)
Tested new OS on snow, this is what I got. Updated fine, everything was installed without a hitch. Opened in Ableton 7.12 on macbook, tested the new effects with a init patch, sounded good through my onboard laptop speakers (people are sleeping right now, can't listen on my monitors).
I left the new Freq Shifter on set to freq shift, went to turn on a hyper saw and I got no sound.
Turned off the freq shifter still no sound.
Tried to open up another patch no sound, clicked around then i got this really crazy digital sound flying all over the place in pitch and timbre.
Patches won't load correctly and mostly don't make sound.
IamEvil
15.01.2009, 03:16 PM
my Ti has finished updating...
The synth seems to be working fine , had a bit of a play with the new EQ modes and stereo widening.. Also a quick run through the new distortion types..
nice additions to the syth , nice one !
I've not got a PC connected to test the VC part
So, the only hardware difference between the TI and TI2 is 1.25x the DSP (25% additional poly)?
No additional controllers (ribbon-controller/XY-pad/joystick), no high-speed USB2/firewire, no step/mod-seq, no customisable waveforms, no new oscillators, no additional filters...
If the DSP alone had followed Moore's Law, it'd be 4x the DSP [400% poly] of the original TI mk1).
Bit disappointing after five years. =/
cYrus
15.01.2009, 03:23 PM
firs bug found here: the EQs doesn't work through VC here. when i use the virus itself to adjust the eq they work as expected.
Prime NL
15.01.2009, 03:24 PM
On a Mac will it update over OS 2.7.5...or do i need to throw away some stuff first...???
oblivion
15.01.2009, 03:25 PM
Virus TI Snow now up to 110 voices!!! yeeeeees great news! but why only USB 1.0???????? noooooooo!
Access if you read this? go back put in USB 2.0 and then release PLEASE!!!!!
I really hope that this version is less expensive, otherwice they should have put in a 50-60% increase in DSP, USB 2.0 or Firewire 400, double the Voice count to 200 Voice polyphony and name it the "REAL Total Integration"
I am not angry, I just cant understand not using USB 2.0???
As long as they didn't replace the Fatar action with one from CME, this might be my first Virus.
IamEvil
15.01.2009, 03:27 PM
So, the only hardware difference between the TI and TI2 is 1.25x the DSP (25% poly)?
No additional controllers (ribbon-controller/XY-pad/joystick), no high-speed USB2/firewire, no step/mod-seq, no customisable waveforms, no new oscillators, no additional filters...
If the DSP alone had followed Moore's Law, it'd be 4x the DSP [400% poly] of the original TI mk1).
Bit disappointing after five years. =/
It's not a Ti V2 though , it's just a hardware revision/update...
they've sorted bascially everything they said they would with the Ti so far and added more shit than I know what to do with.
the 25% extra may not actually be extra DSP . it may be down to just better coding of the OS
Marc -- what's the score on the extra DSP power ?
brambos
15.01.2009, 03:37 PM
I am not angry, I just cant understand not using USB 2.0???
Doesn't the SNOW already have USB 2.0? I was always under the assumption it already was - and if not: I have never hit a bottleneck where the USB speed was a problem.
Totty
15.01.2009, 03:39 PM
It's not a Ti V2 though , it's just a hardware revision/update...
they've sorted bascially everything they said they would with the Ti so far and added more shit than I know what to do with.
the 25% extra may not actually be extra DSP . it may be down to just better coding of the OS
Marc -- what's the score on the extra DSP power ?
I would presume that faster Freescale Dsp chips are in there which share the same instruction set etc, maybe higher clock speed etc. I'd like to know if it will sound "exactly" the same as the TI1, with the issues I've had with timing etc.
starcorp
15.01.2009, 03:42 PM
is the installer working under vista 64 bit?
IamEvil
15.01.2009, 03:46 PM
I would presume that faster Freescale Dsp chips are in there which share the same instruction set etc, maybe higher clock speed etc. I'd like to know if it will sound "exactly" the same as the TI1, with the issues I've had with timing etc.
from the new gizmo manual pdf it says
All new effects were designed to allow everything from subtle
of change through to altering the sound beyond all recognition. The algorithms were created with both sonic
quality and a low CPU footprint in mind.
A tremendous amount of research went into the new additions ensuring a totally different level of quality in
comparison to the legacy algorithms. But even the legacy algorithms have been improved by additional parameters
which makes them more flexible and powerful.
so it may just be claiming back resources to make it more powerful ?
also it seems that the new version has a slightly different way of effects operation ...
Virus TI2
Press EFFECTS SELECT (Lower Row) until the OTHERS
LED is brightly illuminated. If necessary, locate the
Frequency Shifter page of the EDIT FX menu by using the
PARAMETERS buttons.
Virus TI
Press EFFECTS EDIT (Lower Row) twice. If necessary,
locate the Frequency Shifter page of the EDIT FX menu by
using the PARAMETERS < > buttons.
Virus TI Snow
EDIT/SHIFT+EFFECTS, then locate the Frequency
Shifter page of the EDIT EFFECTS menu by using the
PARAMETERS < > buttons. It is listed after the Phaser
pages.
Splat!
15.01.2009, 03:47 PM
Mine installed just fine. :-)
Been playing around with OS3. There are a few bugs and hiccups.
But, w00t for new OS.
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The confusion with USB v2.0 is that there are three types of USB v2.0 chipsets (for different speeds). Low Speed (1.5Mbps), Full Speed (12Mbps), and High Speed (480Mbps).
All the TIs have the mid-range "FullSpeed" USB v2.0 chipset @ 12Mbps, which is incidently the fastest that USB v1.1 can achieve. Hence the confusion.
Splat!
15.01.2009, 03:53 PM
Virus TI Snow now up to 110 voices!!! yeeeeees great news! but why only USB 1.0???????? noooooooo!
TI Snow upto 110voices? Where where? :confused:
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Totty
15.01.2009, 03:56 PM
from the new gizmo manual pdf it says
so it may just be claiming back resources to make it more powerful ?
also it seems that the new version has a slightly different way of effects operation ...
Interesting, am I reading it right - the TI 2 has 25% more power than the TI V1?
Totty
15.01.2009, 03:56 PM
TI Snow upto 110voices? Where where? :confused:
I saw that on the site, it may be a typo, or maybe not!!
I noticed that.
Does that mean the Snow (mk1) had two DSPs to start with (that have just been 'unlocked' by OS v3.0 [unlikely]), or is it a newer Snow mk2 hardware revision featuring dual-core DSPs (like the other TIs)?
Or just a typo? :)
Splat!
15.01.2009, 04:42 PM
I'm afraid its just a typo.
http://www.access-music.de/events/2009-01/virus_ti2.html
Under specifications, it mentions 10 to 50 voice polyphony, which is correct :p
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Logicology
15.01.2009, 04:49 PM
Is this 64-bit compatible? There is no mention of it in the press release, which makes me nervous.
DeFex
15.01.2009, 04:51 PM
I was pleasantly surprised to read about this this morning so i headed over to access web site to see what i could see. oh look! movies about cool stuff in os3..oh well ill wait till it comes out in ages..but wait there it is in downloads :D
just installed os3 on "original" TI desktop and the new features are all there. works fine so far. seemed to install a bit faster than 2.7.5 but still no option for "drivers only" or " dont update TI if current" if you had to move your USB port and dont want to wait for the TI firmware update.
and i did not get a reocurrence of the problem in cubase where the "audiodriver failed" on the TI control which it seems i just fixed a few days ago when i installed 2.7.5 lol
good thing apple didnt make this synth, or they would have locked out the extra features of the new OS on the old synth :D
Prime NL
15.01.2009, 04:58 PM
Is this 64-bit compatible? There is no mention of it in the press release, which makes me nervous.
Guess you have to be nervous then...if they do not mention it specifically then you can guess it is not implemented.....sorry...:(
Prime NL
15.01.2009, 05:09 PM
I btw. wonder if the included soundset for the TI 2 also works on the older TI's and use the new FX and/or functions...?
Somebody tried this already...???
IamEvil
15.01.2009, 05:12 PM
I btw. wonder if the included soundset for the TI 2 also works on the older TI's and use the new FX and/or functions...?
Somebody tried this already...???
Soundsets are the original Ti soundsets, I was expecting a new bank or 26 too but theres nothing new here.
Prime NL
15.01.2009, 05:18 PM
Tx for the quick reply IamEvil....gives me more time to play with the new effects iso. checking the sounds if they are different... ;)
Splat!
15.01.2009, 05:34 PM
I don't know if it's only with the snow, but the new OS3 sometimes just hangs and plays a standard INIT tone continuosly. It usually happens when I'm loading a new patch. Don't know, if it's cause it runs out of DSP.
I simply put it to sleep and wake it up, seems to work for now. :confused:
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Soundsets are the original Ti soundsets, I was expecting a new bank or 26 too but theres nothing new here.
there is a small 36 patch soundset called 'os3 new fx patches'
its got some interesting sounds
Where do we report bugs in the new OS? Im getting nothing out of either the EQ or the distortion section, and the output latency is identical regardless of whether using USb or Main Outs - i.e., heavily delayed.
Plus I cant load any patched from the "My patches" bank.
Thanks for the great new features though :cool:
Also no arp.
All my favourite patched sound different too....
In... a good way... whats going on?
netra
15.01.2009, 07:48 PM
I browsed the patches after upgrading and found "Virus TI2 Factory Backup"
Nice!
oblivion
15.01.2009, 08:09 PM
I downloaded the Access Catalogue and in the spec for Virus TI Snow is says 25 to 110 voices.
And now it is only 90 voices for the Polar, Desktop and Keyboard version?
I know it can be wrong, but from 110 to 90 is a little bit strange, 20 voice poly lower.
Dont understand this new Access line? almost nothing new.
Anybody tested the sidechain function in combination with automizer??
Ronkaz
15.01.2009, 09:09 PM
I was pleasantly surprised to read about this this morning so i headed over to access web site to see what i could see. oh look! movies about cool stuff in os3..oh well ill wait till it comes out in ages..but wait there it is in downloads :D
just installed os3 on "original" TI desktop and the new features are all there. works fine so far. seemed to install a bit faster than 2.7.5 but still no option for "drivers only" or " dont update TI if current" if you had to move your USB port and dont want to wait for the TI firmware update.
and i did not get a reocurrence of the problem in cubase where the "audiodriver failed" on the TI control which it seems i just fixed a few days ago when i installed 2.7.5 lol
good thing apple didnt make this synth, or they would have locked out the extra features of the new OS on the old synth :D
re install drivers only is in the start menu, you can also install only the core elements without virus control or documentation...
r
DeFex
15.01.2009, 09:28 PM
I have arp. but i cant control feedback and other parameters of the tape delay from a soft knob. (still works on regular delay)
DeFex
15.01.2009, 09:30 PM
re install drivers only is in the start menu, you can also install only the core elements without virus control or documentation...
r
thanks for that! i might need it if i decide to use a pcie USB card (monomes, virus, midex, mx300, vg99, too much effing USB stuff!)
Synthetica
15.01.2009, 11:00 PM
Thanks Access for the Freq Shifter and other effects, they are most excellent !!
fgimian
15.01.2009, 11:08 PM
Awesome update :) I was reeeallly hoping we'd see 64 bit support though, I am just now rebuilding my OS after buying the Virus since I was running Windows XP x64 and now need to go back to Windows XP x32 :(
Love the new VC look! Can anyone please post screenshots of each part of the plugin? The videos take so long to load here.
kcinsu
15.01.2009, 11:09 PM
has anyone noticed that the freq shifter mix is not an option in the matrix?
that's very disappointing!
But besides that, I seriously love Access. They are so good to their customers... I'm very impressed.
Having dealt with lots of BS from clavia over the years, Access' generosity is so appreciated... so anyone at Access that may be reading this: thank you.
Anywho... back to intense knob twiddling
I've been playing with the OS update all morning and holy fuck this is amazing.
I was just using my XT last week and thinking "The virus could use a proper amplitude modulation section" and here it fucking is!
has anyone found use for the new analog boost stuff?
I've never really used it (have had virii for four years now), which specific synths is it supposed to emulate? any ideas?
synthfiend
15.01.2009, 11:12 PM
many thanks to Access for their new OS3, installed fine, awesome effects.
kcinsu
15.01.2009, 11:28 PM
also... atomizer doesnt seem to be delay compensated, when using the USB input.
A good 16th note or so off beat
has anyone noticed that the freq shifter mix is not an option in the matrix?
I noticed right away as well. Would love to see this in the future...
The new os is great, Access. Thank you.
Doc Jones
16.01.2009, 12:52 AM
Anybody tested the sidechain function in combination with automizer??
not yet, I am going to put it through its paces this weekend. I have been waiting since Namm 2008 for input side chaining so I can't wait to test out this new feature.
kcinsu
16.01.2009, 12:57 AM
1. what do they mean by " Last but not least, a modification to the main "VCA" algorithm enables OS3 users to design gating FX known from electro and minimal influenced music.
I haven't figured that one out yet.
2. I just read in the addendum that some hosts will have the delay, and there is nothing they can do about it, which makes me sad :(
kcinsu
16.01.2009, 01:42 AM
so does
"Use the Characters section to apply subtle changes to sound of the filters, the oscillators, and the character
of the nonlinearities and distortions throughout the instrument."
mean that this isnt an "effect" like you put in the signal chain... but more of a under the hood tweaking of the fundamental synth engine?
LivePsy
16.01.2009, 02:19 AM
The best news is that the current TI is not in any way obsolete. Even if it was, how much more bloody power do you need to make music ? :)
B
so does
"Use the Characters section to apply subtle changes to sound of the filters, the oscillators, and the character
of the nonlinearities and distortions throughout the instrument."
mean that this isnt an "effect" like you put in the signal chain... but more of a under the hood tweaking of the fundamental synth engine?
yes it does exactly that, but I kind of can't be bothered using it, and it doesnt say what each one does, even in the demo video Ben Crosland is just like "They can make it emulate the sound of famous analog synths"
well, which ones!?
lapd02
16.01.2009, 07:39 PM
When will the new hardware be available?? :D
oblivion
16.01.2009, 07:41 PM
Shortly after NAMM
Monobeat
16.01.2009, 10:27 PM
I could see using all the new DSP power. In songs that are mostly TI, I often hit the wall with polyphony.
Here's the catch...
It's that wall that keeps me in check and tells me. "Hey Andrew, chill out..." Then I go.... "Oh yeah... " The world of TI polyphony has made me lavish all my music in sonic possiblity, and pay less attention to all the silence that makes dance music pop. I think the TI has the perfect amount of voices...
I am happy oh so happy with this OS, the TI, and my current state of music mind.
DigitAl56K
17.01.2009, 07:07 AM
Marc, Just wanted to drop a note to thank you guys for opening up OS 3 to the TI range! I just bought a TI Keyboard recently and I would have hated to have had to trade it in already! Big thumbs up here. I like supporting companies that support their users in return :)
flipside
17.01.2009, 09:11 AM
Looking and working very good so far here! Yeah!
Alex
Natspace
17.01.2009, 09:27 AM
the TI is in for the long run, in other words - there will be updates to the entire series as long as it is technically feasible.
best regards,
marc
That a great news for my Snow, thank Marc ;)
Cantankerous
17.01.2009, 02:33 PM
a public beta is available as of now.
here's a couple of things i'd like to mention: OS3 is available for the entire Ti series including the snow. we could have easy limited it to the new TI but we didn't for a simple reason. it's really old fashion and not beneficial for anybody (including us). so treat it as a gift :)
the TI is in for the long run, in other words - there will be updates to the entire series as long as it is technically feasible.
best regards,
marc
ps. our entire support team is on the NAMM. please understand that there might be increased turnaround times for the ticket for the next couple of days.
I can't thank you guys enough for not abandoning us early adopters of the Virus Ti lineup. I was actually quite sad when I heard of the Ti2 being released as I only just bought my Ti about 6 months ago now. When I read that the new OS3 was available for the older units too I was very, very surprised and extremely happy to boot. Just reading of the new features made me want the Ti2. Now I get those features without having to worry about shelling out for a whole new unit. In these economic times, not many can do such a thing.
Thanks again and keep up the great work. I look very, very forward to receiving any new updates you guys can offer. Access support really is as good as I heard it was before I even bought my unit.
00264167
17.01.2009, 08:10 PM
I wish they would let you reset a knob back to zero by double clicking on it.
in version2 i always find it fiddley in vc moving the knobs small amounts but it seems alot better in version3.
IamEvil
17.01.2009, 08:18 PM
@ Marc , if he reads this.....
Any chance of implementing a shift toggle somewhere ?
Playing while trying to adjust a parameter while holding shift is getting a bit complex :)
I hope that it's 64bit compatible.
64bit would be a WIN.
sawtooth
17.01.2009, 11:39 PM
So, the only hardware difference between the TI and TI2 is 1.25x the DSP (25% additional poly)?
No additional controllers (ribbon-controller/XY-pad/joystick), no high-speed USB2/firewire, no step/mod-seq, no customisable waveforms, no new oscillators, no additional filters...
If the DSP alone had followed Moore's Law, it'd be 4x the DSP [400% poly] of the original TI mk1).
Bit disappointing after five years. =/
I think the real update is the OS. I think the hardware is more of like when they put out a new smaller model of the playstation 2 when the components are made smaller, etc. - maybe kind of a mkII. One of the main features of this ti2 is that it is a lot lighter. My TI P0lar is pretty heavy so that's kind of cool, I guess. I'm very happy that my TI P0lar is not obsolete and will still be supported and updated. I'm also very happy about the OS - it Rules!
I just bought my TI like about a month ago!!
So happy its not ganna be obsolete instantly
mitchiemasha
19.01.2009, 06:37 PM
think we all need to say a big thank you to access.
they could of turned there back on previous buyers. I have never known a company to do this. bug fixes, yes but this is a hole new toy.
looks like for all of us who choose a ti, over other synths, have made the right choice. all those hard saved pounds were well spent.
thank you.
they release a new model but yet us with the old 1 get it for free. kind of... they could of charged for this upgrade like a software product would.
sorry but am jst realy happy i bought a virus ti. had mine for some time and it jst keeps getting better. as i learn the more it can do.
markorbit
19.01.2009, 08:09 PM
Just stopping by to say a HUGE thanks to the Access team for what looks like a great update. I only installed yesterday so haven't yet tried all the new stuff but had to drop by and congratulate the great folks at Access.
acidduck
21.01.2009, 04:09 AM
I can't thank Access enough.
I remember years ago trying to make a decision on which piece of kit to buy as my new main studio synth. I am so glad I brought a Virus TI. No other piece of hardware I know of has received so many excellent FREE updates.
When I heard of the Virus TI mkII range, I thought it meant the end of support for my TI keyboard (and realistically, after continual firmware updates with superb added features for years now, this would not have surprised me). The fact that Access are releasing this update to existing owners shows that they truly are dedicated to their users.
It's funny that I initially hesitated about buying my Virus. If I knew back then of all the features that would be added over time, my decision would have been easy - the Virus was without the slightest of doubt the smartest purchase I think I've ever made.
Thanks so much Access... the features you keep adding are brilliant, and thus my Virus remains my most loved piece of studio kit!
I'm looking forward to installing this new OS soon...
00264167
21.01.2009, 09:25 PM
is there a way to get all the new (i assume most of them are new) 't12 factory backup' presets in to the search categories?
ive put all the ti2 banks in my patches folder and it sees and uses them all ok but i dont think theyre being included in the search categories.
firs bug found here: the EQs doesn't work through VC here. when i use the virus itself to adjust the eq they work as expected.
which EQ band specifically?
marc
It's not a Ti V2 though , it's just a hardware revision/update...
they've sorted bascially everything they said they would with the Ti so far and added more shit than I know what to do with.
the 25% extra may not actually be extra DSP . it may be down to just better coding of the OS
Marc -- what's the score on the extra DSP power ?
guys,
we did a partial redesign of the motherboard to allow for more DSP power. as for "It's not a Ti V2 though" i don't think there would be a more moderate way to indicate the revision, especially as the "2" is not even a part of the name on the synth itselves.
best, marc
I saw that on the site, it may be a typo, or maybe not!!
it is in the pdf brochure and a copy/paste error. the snow still has the same about of voices. it wasn't newly introduced and upgraded anyway.
best, marc
Soundsets are the original Ti soundsets, I was expecting a new bank or 26 too but theres nothing new here.
the TI2 will have a new soundset. TI1 user can listen to it by navigating virus control to the "backup" of the new set within the patches folder.
best, marc
also... atomizer doesnt seem to be delay compensated, when using the USB input.
A good 16th note or so off beat
that's your host (logic e.g.) , not the virus. i've commented on that elsewhere
best, marc
I wish they would let you reset a knob back to zero by double clicking on it.
in version2 i always find it fiddley in vc moving the knobs small amounts but it seems alot better in version3.
two things: the knobs behave the same in the old and new version. resetting to zero is not possible but for the value used in the original patch. just cmd-click on the knob. TI2 backup banks on your disc show up in the search results.
best, marc
Splat!
22.01.2009, 01:48 AM
the TI2 will have a new soundset. TI1 user can listen to it by navigating virus control to the "backup" of the new set within the patches folder.
Is the new soundset already included or will it be available later? I didn't quite get it.
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Crossfire
22.01.2009, 04:37 AM
The confusion with USB v2.0 is that there are three types of USB v2.0 chipsets (for different speeds). Low Speed (1.5Mbps), Full Speed (12Mbps), and High Speed (480Mbps).
All the TIs have the mid-range "FullSpeed" USB v2.0 chipset @ 12Mbps, which is incidently the fastest that USB v1.1 can achieve. Hence the confusion.
Thanks for clearing this up!
So if the TI has the Full Speed chipset does this mean it can never be upgraded to a High Speed speed through a software/firmware update?
I wonder which chipset the TI2 has...
emdebee
22.01.2009, 05:55 AM
Is the new soundset already included or will it be available later? I didn't quite get it.
It's available via the browser in Virus Control v3. Look in the Public Libraries section, under Virus TI2 Factory Backup... hope this helps?
Totty
22.01.2009, 06:10 AM
1. what do they mean by " Last but not least, a modification to the main "VCA" algorithm enables OS3 users to design gating FX known from electro and minimal influenced music.
I haven't figured that one out yet.
2. I just read in the addendum that some hosts will have the delay, and there is nothing they can do about it, which makes me sad :(
You can use the patch volume as a destination in the mod matrix, this now happens after the effects so you can chop the reverb trails etc on off in a trippy kinda way:)
it is in the pdf brochure and a copy/paste error. the snow still has the same about of voices. it wasn't newly introduced and upgraded anyway.
best, marc
That would have been a bit much anyway.. "you had 2 dsp chips all along. surprise!" :D
As far a the upgade is concerned, nothing but words of praise to all of you at Access music. The Ti sets a new bar for value. One I don't see any other manuracturer catching up to any time soon... I just wish others would finally learn from you and give us more VST compatable synths. :rolleyes:
No bugs so far in v3. Seems to be working great in cubase.
Still wondering about 64bit version? Is this included/planned? Cubase 5 is gonna be 64bit so...
phasesync
23.05.2009, 02:55 PM
Hi there,
I'm a total newbie with Access and finally decided to buy a TI2 desktop and did so last week. After reading the quickstart manual, steinberg cubase and the reference tutorial and tweeking knobs I have a feeling there is a steep trial/error learning curve ahead for me. Maybe it is the lack of documentation or I'm just not smart enough! :confused:
If someone could tell me where to find more detailed (dummy) information with pictures and stuff I would be very happy.
Cheers,
Joel
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