Why not? Feature requests for OS 3.1... [Archive] - The Unofficial Access Virus & Virus TI Forum

sawtooth

18.01.2009, 12:23 AM

The new OS 3 is very exciting and I'm enjoying it immensely... but I read someone saying they hope they make it 64 bit (I'm not sure what that means - maybe because I'm on a mac)... anyway I just thought it would be fun to make a thread for reasonable feature requests... here's mine:

1. In the mod matrix, having formant complex detune and grain complex detune selectable.

2. In mod matrix, having parameters on new effects selectable.

3. Having pre-programed arps visible (so I could at least copy it by hand and edit it).

that's all for now - I'm interested to hear what others have to add.

luddy

18.01.2009, 02:16 AM

Working controller dump and restore. That is, the sysex dump of controllers should capture all the configuration settings of the machine, and the restore should restore them. This would be a godsend for reliably setting up the synth for a live show.

-Luddy

Joey

18.01.2009, 05:35 AM

Comb Filter

suzzymackenzie

18.01.2009, 07:29 AM

3. Having pre-programed arps visible (so I could at least copy it by hand and edit it).

Seconded! :) Also

stil wanting to see the preset arp patterns display themselves like a user pattern so you can see how they are set. think thats a different topic though.

brambos

18.01.2009, 10:17 AM

My wishes are modest... ;)

1. Improved readability of the new preset browser in VC
2. Being able to see the current load on the DSP

Soundwise the Snow currently leaves me with nothing left to wish for. It is without doubt the most versatile and powerful synth I own, hardware or software.

:p

enfield

18.01.2009, 10:21 AM

Soundwise the Snow currently leaves me with nothing left to wish for.

Does it also have improved polyphony with OS3?

cedeckovec

18.01.2009, 11:48 AM

Yes comb filter with pos/neg feedback and switchable peak will be great. And metalic noise oscilator and string oscilator for psy-mod instruments. More sources and destination in matrix, for better and total modulation. Ideal is math function for modulation source/destination +,-,*,/,sin,exp. My last chaos lfo with some param. for algoritmic arpegios.

Howk :-)

reppaz

18.01.2009, 11:53 AM

Hi,
I'd like to see new filter models in addition to the current "analog" ladder type filter mode. E.g. one emulating the nice Pro-One filter.

brambos

18.01.2009, 12:49 PM

Does it also have improved polyphony with OS3?

I haven't been able to test that yet. I've gone back to 2.7.x for now because on the Snow the new OS wasn't usable yet. I had to restart the Snow every 2 minutes because it would crash constantly (when doing simple things like changing the oscillators).

So I'll have to be patient until 3.0 comes out of Beta and hopefully works better on the Snow as well.

I already miss the new VC gui though.

Joey

18.01.2009, 03:36 PM

Hi,
I'd like to see new filter models in addition to the current "analog" ladder type filter mode. E.g. one emulating the nice Pro-One filter.

yes this too!

I'd like to see an oberheim SEM filter, an SSM filter, or an Arp filter emulation.

cYrus

18.01.2009, 06:02 PM

some new "vintage" OSCs would be great. just like the classic OSCs but with a different sound. something more dirty and less digital sounding.

IamEvil

18.01.2009, 07:46 PM

as already mentioned on other threads...

Gate on/off controlled by Arp trigger option

Compressor or limiter

Shift Toggle mode

Drum oscillators (like the supernova 2) :)

effects order routing

invert LCD mode

plaid_emu

18.01.2009, 08:33 PM

I want Virus Control as a stand-alone software editor/librarian that communicates with your computer via MIDI. Take USB out of the equation so I can actually make my $2,400 synth sync to MIDI clock while I compose and edit sounds.

kcinsu

18.01.2009, 09:03 PM

yeah, a stand alone VC would be fantastic.

keybdwizrd

21.01.2009, 05:35 AM

1. Standalone VC
2. Compatibility with Digital Performer

Ceri JC

21.01.2009, 09:59 AM

In order of preference, mine are;

1. An effect unit similar to Ableton Live's Resonator.

2. A distortion mode that adds subtle fizzing and crackling artifacts.

3. Multiple Arps and the ability to assign them in the matrix; like the Massive VST can be used.

4. An on board step sequencer (with support for chords)

Subactive

21.01.2009, 12:50 PM

Having pre-programed arps visible (so I could at least copy it by hand and edit it).

The ultimate for me would be to be able to drag n drop the Arp patterns into the host sequencer as Midi Files. Total Control over the pattern.

mitchiemasha

21.01.2009, 12:58 PM

3. Having pre-programed arps visible (so I could at least copy it by hand and edit it).

deffo or have it transmit the arp notes like what my cs2x does.

Ceri JC

21.01.2009, 01:01 PM

3. Having pre-programed arps visible (so I could at least copy it by hand and edit it).

I think a good way of implementing this would be to show the pre-programmed arps, then when you click on them to edit them it seamlessly jumps to the "user" arp, where it has copied the pattern. I'd like it to do this without any warnings about overwriting the user arp; make the numptys who do it by accident use the undo key, rather than everyone click "yes" every time.

mitchiemasha

21.01.2009, 01:10 PM

I think a good way of implementing this would be to show the pre-programmed arps, then when you click on them to edit them it seamlessly jumps to the "user" arp, where it has copied the pattern. I'd like it to do this without any warnings about overwriting the user arp; make the numptys who do it by accident use the undo key, rather than everyone click "yes" every time.

that exactly how it should wrk.

mitchiemasha

21.01.2009, 01:11 PM

annikk.exe

21.01.2009, 01:18 PM

Dear Santa,

I would like a:

1. Real military grade valve for the distortion (freeing up CPU and providing some nice analog warmth) NB: I haven't heard the new distortions in OSv3 yet.. also I realise asking for physical components from an OS update is stupid. :P

2. Onboard waveform peaks and apparent loudness analysis tool

3. Virus Control that works in a 64 bit operating system!!!!! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!

4. Better Demo Song (the current one is pretty lame)

5. A better, more configurable implementation of the filter Split Mode.

6. Expanded Retrigger/Legato options, preferably consolidated into their own menu screens instead of scattered all over the place.

7. A flashy virus logo that can sync to a beat detected by audio, as well as to the midi clock. Also a logo that flashes depending on the keyboard activity, eg one flash per key press. And a logo that dims and brightens with the overall output volume, or the output volume of a specific patch, or the currently selected patch. A "strobe" option would be nice, too, ie flashing at, say, 1000bpm when in reality the tempo is only 100bpm.

8. MORE ANALOG-STYLE FILTERS!! ::creams self at the thought of the 1pole::

9. A stereo image analysis tool.

10. A cooler "waking up" sequence. Currently when waking the TI from sleep mode, all the LEDs flash once, then return to whatever is appropriate for the currently selected patch. With so many LEDs available it's almost criminal to not make better use of them, for some value-adding eye candy and a proper little visual reward for coming back to it each time. How about a circular sweeping pattern across the face of the board? Or twinkling star-like stuff?

Yus.

-Annikk

Cantankerous

21.01.2009, 02:31 PM

The ultimate for me would be to be able to drag n drop the Arp patterns into the host sequencer as Midi Files. Total Control over the pattern.

Now that is an incredible idea and feature I would love to see!

paulkeeley

21.01.2009, 02:45 PM

1. Standalone VC

BIG +1 for this!

teethofgold

21.01.2009, 04:11 PM

BIG +1 for this!

I say +10!

I tried os 3.0.. but now the VC doesn't work in DP 5.1. I only need to use VC for patch editing...

barring this being fixed, does anyone have a suggestion for a *free* program on the mac that I can use to host this VST well enough to do patch editing with OS 3?

danbroad

21.01.2009, 05:42 PM

Just a step sequencer, thanks. Arp values as mod source, or a new VC page to edit it.

While on the subject, is there a "drone" function - a way of holding a non-gated note indefinitely? I'm away from the synth right now..

lukas412

21.01.2009, 06:35 PM

DIGITAL SCREAMS

21.01.2009, 07:13 PM

sawtooth

21.01.2009, 09:07 PM

Access have just released OS3....which obviously involved alot of work. I find it baffling that people are already commenting on further features and upgrades. I'm not speaking on behalf of Access....but someone, somewhere must surely find this frustrating.

These upgrades are not a right....but a continuing gesture of goodwill. Any other manufacturer would have wrapped up a new OS in a new product and made you pay for the privilage. My feeling is that we would lay off the 'I want I want' type threads and just be thankful for what one has already been given.

Peace out

DS

Oh, for sure... we're greedy bastards. This is all in love. We love 3.0 (at least I do) and I would of gladly paid for it. It's not meant to be an insult... just to dream. A lot of these requests work off of the new OS and are probably easy to update (for example, adding some of the new effect parameters to the mod matrix)... I'm sure there will be 3.1 and I'm sure they're already working on it so maybe they want some ideas of what the people want. Access isn't one to rest on their laurels.

00264167

21.01.2009, 09:14 PM

this is a simple one; reset vc softknobs to zero by double clicking on them

00264167

21.01.2009, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by Subactive http://www.infekted.org/virus/redbar/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.infekted.org/virus/showthread.php?p=285929#post285929)
The ultimate for me would be to be able to drag n drop the Arp patterns into the host sequencer as Midi Files. Total Control over the pattern.

1. +1 - if this would work then arp patterns could be exchanged on the internet (i think zeta has this function)

always wanted use the arp steps to assign modulation destinations like in zebra, even just controlling the pitch of each arp step would be an improvement.

2. virus control on every midi track, so vst effects can be applied separately to each part

annikk.exe

21.01.2009, 11:35 PM

I've only just realised now that people from Access actually read and post on this forum. It's a bit of a surreal experience - I'm used to companies refusing to come out of the ivory tower for anyone except business customers. It's pretty cool.. :> I will need to watch what I say from now on though :P

Anyway, yus. Someone asked the question, so I responded with a bunch of stuff which by and large I just thought up on the spot. It's really cool that there are constantly new updates coming out. I was pretty nervous about buying my TI KBD because it's the single most expensive item I have ever purchased, EVER. But it seems like my optimism is being vindicated.. :>

I think the reason this thread happened, is because it's something fun to talk about. I don't really see us as complaining, never being satisfied, or anything like that - I am sure you are all as grateful as I am for the excellent aftermarket service and support. But having an OS 3.0 thread where everyone adds their post saying "Thanks Access!! I really appreciate this!!" would be a bit silly really.. :>

-Annikk

keybdwizrd

22.01.2009, 03:47 AM

I'm not speaking on behalf of Access....but someone, somewhere must surely find this frustrating.

Certainly not any more frustrated than those of us who use a little-known piece of software called Digital Performer.

cedeckovec

22.01.2009, 09:27 AM

Why not make both architecture ?

1. Classic Virus Ti control
2. Modular synth features like NordModular G2

My idea is boot menu Classic/Modular

Classic mode for quick an live production

Modular mode for experimental, algoritmic, special using (for more sound and complex possibilities)

DSP Virus power is more large than G2modular - this is great thing for new sounds and possibilities.

marc

22.01.2009, 11:31 AM

Certainly not any more frustrated than those of us who use a little-known piece of software called Digital Performer.

which is not a supported host.

best, marc

mitchiemasha

22.01.2009, 12:02 PM

this is a simple one; reset vc softknobs to zero by double clicking on them

yes, that would be great

00264167

22.01.2009, 01:17 PM

to be able to turn all lights and main display off on the hardware unit - i always use vc and the virus is always on being used as a soundcard so would be nice to preserve those leds.

Joey

22.01.2009, 02:54 PM

to be able to turn all lights and main display off on the hardware unit - i always use vc and the virus is always on being used as a soundcard so would be nice to preserve those leds.

you can turn the led brightness to their lowest setting by hitting the config button on the virus and then going to that menu

DIGITAL SCREAMS

22.01.2009, 06:03 PM

to be able to turn all lights and main display off on the hardware unit - i always use vc and the virus is always on being used as a soundcard so would be nice to preserve those leds.

Don't worry about LED's. They are incredibly durable and will last a lifetime.

Knobs and buttons will begin to wear out after about 25-30 years....in other words....alot sooner than your LED's will.

DS

Halcyone

23.01.2009, 09:41 AM

OK guys, my turn to write to Santa :
The best add would be a compressor/limiter to increase each sound singly.
I often have to use more than the 3USB channels (and convert to wave before final render... ugh ;) ) because I have to use a limiter/maximizer to boost a trance seq or a deep bass...
I don't know how it's possible yet... but I will for sure look at my Christmas tree at next update !

JordiMayor

23.01.2009, 10:19 AM

It's impressive the new OS 3, but... Very outdated 32 bit mode!!!

Windows XP64, Windows Vista32, now the beta of Windows 7... All platforms are 64 bit capable... Why I've to maintain my workplace in a 32 bit environment without using the power of 64 bit applications???

Please, Access: Go for it!! You've must to launch avaiability for 64bit support in the awesome Virus software!!

Thanks a lot for your work!! ;)

HiEnergy

23.01.2009, 06:37 PM

this is a simple one; reset vc softknobs to zero by double clicking on them

This is already there. Control-click does the trick...

Spoff

24.01.2009, 04:41 PM

A lot of times I bring up a sound and just turn some of the Value 1,2,3 knobs under the screen to get it to where I like the sound a lot more. It would be great if I could save this patch with the new knob settings, but it seems that the new settings are not saved with the patch. Is there a way to do this now that I don't know?

Also, a stand-alone VC would be great for those of us with Digital Performer or other unsupported hosts. Just for patch editing and library functions.

That being said I am amazed at all that has been added on free to the TI already, and will be in the market when they come out with the next generation platform.

Spoff

Totty

24.01.2009, 05:23 PM

My 2 biggys are things that have been an issue for me for a while.

Recursive modulation that actually works when you play more than 2 notes.

LFO sweeps that don't randomise their phase when you play another part.

teethofgold

24.01.2009, 05:28 PM

what do you mean by recursive modulation?

also... i thought that you are able to set the initial phase of the lfos?

Totty

24.01.2009, 05:45 PM

Sorry, should have been more specific.

You can use recursive modulation on the Virus to create different effects with modulation curves. For instance, you can use the filter envelope as a mod source and filter decay as a mod destination. Doesn't seem a big deal, but it allows you to alter the decay curve from linear, to concave or convex. If you want to emulate various synths this is a great way to get closer as alot of old analogs have different shaped envelope curves. There are other uses, but this is my favorite. The problem on the TI is that when you do the above, I keep having the envelopes cut off if you play too many notes, ie: 2-3. It irritates me immensely...

The LFO issue isn't the phase (sorry wrong terminology). The lfos often loose their resolution and position when another sound plays. Don't know why, but I have told Access, still waiting for response.

glenn303

24.01.2009, 07:58 PM

Being able to flatten in Ableton Live 7 when using VC.

incubatid

25.01.2009, 07:30 AM

Great thread guys, there's some EXCELLENT suggestions in here :)

Personally the only thing I'm really hanging out for is 64-bit compatibility.
Many other suggestions made here would be awesome too though.

As always Access, thank you for your amazing support. I will support your company (by purchasing future products and recommending you to everyone I meet) just as you have supported me - relentlessly!

xx Peace

Raphie

25.01.2009, 08:02 AM

- doubleclicking volumesliders resets slider to 100 (or normalized volume)

- clicking active part on the left highlights active patch in the patchlist (this is really annoying now, especially when browsing patches and tweaking them a bit, you never know where you left off)

- Ti panel follows Cubase track selection (when i use like 6 or 7 TI tracks i always struglle to select the right one in the VSTi
- TI panel follows Cubase mutes same as above.

- show voices left..... (i find myself not able to use more than 4 or 5 complex patches maximum without notes being dropped because i reached polyfony, would be nice to see a mter with where i am at)

- implement METAdata in patchlists (basses, leads, arpergiated etc)

incubatid

31.01.2009, 08:40 AM

cedeckovec

31.01.2009, 12:43 PM

- better patch randomizer - like DNA mutator (similar Clavia G2 modular)
- +1 for sequencer features
- +1 dynamic effect like compressor, gate, limiter
- formant + grain filter with shape modulation (like oscilator but for anything oscilator type)
- SampleAndHold filter and distortion
- +1 more recursive modulation sources (audio, oscilator, fm filter ...)
- controlling sound from audio source - like inteligent envelope follover with audio peek and frequency detection
- multipoint time envelope for complex texture and pad sounds
- and all feedback function pre/pos filter (new sonic structures like DSI evolver)
- multi fm oscilator (8op - like dx7 sound)
- tunable delay line for PM sounds

and more :-)

Virus Ti is my favorite machine with great future possibilities - very thanks Access Team !

Timo

31.01.2009, 12:57 PM

Scratched record alert, my top three easily are:-

• Wavetable waveform/oscillator designer
• LFO waveform designer and/or modulation-sequencer
• More filters (inc. 1-pole version of Access' own filter)

Am bummed that the TI|2 is effectively no different to the TI|1 in terms of hardware, though.

Pighood

31.01.2009, 02:31 PM

Just three wishes:

1. Audio

2. Rate

3. FM

sawtooth

01.02.2009, 04:49 AM

• More filters (inc. 1-pole version of Access' own filter)

I might be way off, but wouldn't it be the same as a 1-pole filter if you used Ser 4 filter mode, and opened the filter 1 all the way and set filter balance at +32 and used filter 2 as a 1-pole filter.

I apologize if I'm making a fool of myself, but that's how I understood it.

Joey

02.02.2009, 05:21 AM

My Shortlist:

(this would probably be too much for the current TI, but i'd like to see them in future access synths at least)

Comb filters

Oberheim filters

Arp filters

1 Pole Virus Filter

A third Envelope

Audio Rate FM

Oscillator 1/2/3 as sources in the mod matrix

individual glide rates per oscillator

Filter FM

Satch

02.02.2009, 10:40 PM

1. I've no idea if this would be possible but it would be really cool if you could write modulation from the lfo's and envelopes to automation tracks in your sequencer.

2. Tempo syncable lfo's in the chorus and phaser.

3. The 3 lfo's all fully featured.

4. At least one more envelope.

5. Looping envelopes.

6. Multi breakpoint envelopes.

Monobeat

02.02.2009, 11:55 PM

1. A sarcasm button

2. A less is more option.

3. At least 1 lfo to scratch my back where I can't reach it.

annikk.exe

03.02.2009, 01:05 PM

A comb filter would be awesome :> Neither my TI or my MS2000 has one..

-Annikk

Matt van k

04.02.2009, 07:40 AM

BIG +1 for this!

Use a vst host like this:)

http://www.hermannseib.com/vsthost.htm

It´s a good stabile programm.

I want a better performance-playing for the hardware itself.Maybee an another multimode with automatic KB splitting for only 2-3 Soundz.
The new Distortion tubes are cool but the stopp the arpeggiator:(
so i return to the 2.7 because where is a better live-worklflow(i don´t wanna use a computer at the stage)
The delay rocks but stopps too:-?

By the Way the OLD Virus Control looks better(or bader:)

But finally i´m happy with the Virus TI and i love to work with him.

marc

04.02.2009, 09:51 AM

The new Distortion tubes are cool but the stopp the arpeggiator:(
so i return to the 2.7 because where is a better live-worklflow(i don´t wanna use a computer at the stage)
The delay rocks but stopps too:-?

the new FX don't stop the sequencer. it's just when you switch to another algorithm, you will only hear the change on everything you'll play from this point onwards. this is intentional and will not change.

marc

starcorp

04.02.2009, 11:56 AM

no more features but more stable and 64 bit compatiblity
please!
jan

Raphie

05.02.2009, 05:25 AM

stop flashing the OS, when re-installing same version of software, this is time consuming, not neccecary and really annoying

Monobeat

06.02.2009, 11:33 PM

1) A "Vegas" mode so all the lights flash to incoming an audio signal

2) Refer to #1

LivePsy

06.02.2009, 11:35 PM

Why Monobeat? Isn't 2 lights flashing the audio input enough for you ? :)

Monobeat

06.02.2009, 11:55 PM

I need moar. I want the Virus logo to flash like a strobe light in sync with the LFO as well... I bet that one has been thought of before.

emdebee

07.02.2009, 10:39 AM

Hmmm...

Interesting to see that my post no longer exists!

I'll say it again...

I know that it's been said before but...

All I want is for the Arps and Envelopes to have reliable timing from within Virus Control. It's been a major issue since I purchased my TI Kybd and it's doing my head in! It's just not good enough as far as I am concerned... and I still won't be using it live until it is sorted out!!!

Having the Arps and Envelopes triggering at different points is bloody annoying, if not unusable... Having phrasing with the Arps changing each time they are triggered is just not musical!

Arghhh... please get this sorted out before considering any other extra features? FFS

One more thing that I will add is the concept of TI - Total Integration... It is anything other than that... I am so under-whelmed by this that I wished that I had kept my Virus C. Why can't this just work as it is meant to, and as it has been advertised? The idea of running my TI via MIDI is not the reason I purchased it! I need Virus Control, and it's just a shame that it does the Virus TI no justice at all with all of the problems that, not just myself, but many other people are experiencing!

Oh... and if it doesn't get sorted out, I would really like to return it to Access and get my money back! (even though I really love what I can do with it) - it just doesn't do what Access says, with the reliability that would be expected!

Sorry about my tone, but I am really at the end of my tether with this... it's been just over a year of headaches and it still hasn't been sorted out! Access are releasing new featues and a new "TI|2" - but haven't sorted out the most basic issues... Accurate timing with the Arps and Envelopes. If it's an issue with the Mk1 - tell us? If so, please replace my TI Mk1 with a TI|2 - that would only be reasonable?

Totty

07.02.2009, 10:54 AM

Hmmm...

Interesting to see that my post no longer exists!

I'll say it again...

I know that it's been said before but...

All I want is for the Arps and Envelopes to have reliable timing from within Virus Control. It's been a major issue since I purchased my TI Kybd and it's doing my head in! It's just not good enough as far as I am concerned... and I still won't be using it live until it is sorted out!!!

Having the Arps and Envelopes triggering at different points is bloody annoying, if not unusable... Having phrasing with the Arps changing each time they are triggered is just not musical!

Arghhh... please get this sorted out before considering any other extra features? FFS

One more thing that I will add is the concept of TI - Total Integration... It is anything other than that... I am so under-whelmed by this that I wished that I had kept my Virus C. Why can't this just work as it is meant to, and as it has been advertised? The idea of running my TI via MIDI is not the reason I purchased it! I need Virus Control, and it's just a shame that it does the Virus TI no justice at all with all of the problems that, not just myself, but many other people are experiencing!

I second what you're saying. If I were you, you need to send files to Access to show the problem, that is what I have done. If enough people do this, then hopefully they can figure it out

emdebee

07.02.2009, 11:05 AM

I second what you're saying. If I were you, you need to send files to Access to show the problem, that is what I have done. If enough people do this, then hopefully they can figure it out

Hi Totty... originally I did when I had all manner of issues with notes cutting off for no reason - especially when there was very little load on the TI's DSP's... :( My TI is from the more recent batches as it was shipped from Germany last Jan/Feb '08 - if my memory serves me correctly...

I just don't have the time any more to endlessly send emails backwards and forwards... I just want the main problems to get fixed and for it to work as it should, and as advertised by Access.

With the more recent updates that has, to a majority of extents, been sorted out - but the main issues of timing with the Arps and Envelopes still exist! - Damn - I have been doing this stuff professionally for well over 20 years. I think that I know what I am woffling on about and it's definitely NOT my imagination! I am starting to think that Access can't fix it - and to pull the wool over everyones' eyes they release a TI|2... Hmmm?

Starting to get very suspicious...

If the TI|2 does not exibit these issues, I want mine replaced by Access! By my reckoning, it's false advertising, and in a court of law - they are FAHRKED!

Totty

07.02.2009, 11:23 AM

Totally agree if thats the case, I am however not so far down the road as you and I have contacted Access and I am giving them the opportunity to test the issues I have raised. It is a pain in the butt I know

emdebee

07.02.2009, 11:28 AM

Hey Totty...

Thanks for the support - BTW how is the February snow in London - F'ing unbelievable! Hahahahahaaa... we just had the hottest day ever on record in Melbourne (Australia) today - 46.4 Celsius Arghhh... and they say that global warming is a myth?

It says that I'm new here, but I am Infekted - Damn it!

Totty

07.02.2009, 11:38 AM

emdebee

07.02.2009, 11:51 AM

No probs mate! Yes I heard you guys are melting whilst we're freezing!
It's not too bad where we are now, earlier in the week i couldn't get anywhere! But I think up north it still is like that. We are useless here. We can't cope with the heat, we cant grit roads when it's cold. I dunno - guess I should just stay in and play music;)

Today, I wished that I was still living in London... but thankfully, a cold change has just swept in... 21.7 Celsius... that's bearable!

Music always makes the problems of the world less significant... except when I am using my TI with Virus Control... ;) Damn it...

Timo

07.02.2009, 11:52 AM

Hmmm...

Interesting to see that my post no longer exists!

We support free speech. There were no posts deleted this end (have just checked the log, too). Maybe a submission error?

Hope Access sort the timing bugs, but really I'd try continue working with them as closely as possible, sending them everything that causes the bugs so they can try and reproduce them. Bugs are always so much easier to fix when developers can reproduce them.

I know you've already done this in the past for other issues. Did they ever get back to you that they could reproduce the arp' timing bugs?

emdebee

07.02.2009, 12:01 PM

We support free speech. There were no posts deleted this end. Maybe a submission error?

Hey Timo,

It was definitely deleted as I made sure that it was visible after I posted. It was 1-3 posts after Joey's ( 02.02.2009, 05:21 PM)

Hmmm...

Timo, do you want more new features or for Access to fix the most blindingly problematic issues? ;)

And do we really have an answer from Access (Marc) about the TI|2 regarding hardware changes? I think not...

I'm still quite suspicious.

emdebee

07.02.2009, 12:12 PM

We support free speech. There were no posts deleted this end (have just checked the log, too). Maybe a submission error?

Hope Access sort the timing bugs, but really I'd try continue working with them as closely as possible, sending them everything that causes the bugs so they can try and reproduce them. Bugs are always so much easier to fix when developers can reproduce them.

I know you've already done this in the past for other issues. Did they ever get back to you that they could reproduce the arp' timing bugs?

Weird about the log not showing my post - but let's not digress any more about that. :)

There were many emails back and forth, but no real "yes we fixed it" from Access... just a firmware/software update about a month or so later - which did fix the note stealing, but not the timing issues. The main issues that I experienced with note stealing were duplicated by Access, but not at the same measures within the project that I supplied to them!!!

The original files that I sent to Access STILL have the Arp timing issues... the cut off note issues seem to have been sorted reasonably. That seemed to have been fixed when they made the note stealing problems more pleasant with 2.7.3 (from my failing memory)... but as I said earlier, I was not stressing the TI's DSP's at all...

I'm just getting a little tired of having these "basic" issues NOT sorted out...

Anyway, I guess it's "fingers crossed" time again?

emdebee

07.02.2009, 12:22 PM

I think that it is about time to give Steve a call regarding these issues (the main Virus guy here in Australia) - just wanted to not bother him as his father passed away earlier last year. The timing was most peculiar as my Mother passed away in Aug '07... The funny thing was that Steve said that he was expecting to hear from me again regarding the TI! Does he know something that we don't regarding these issues? (As I know that he has a close relationship with Access)

Timo

07.02.2009, 12:34 PM

Hey Timo,

It was definitely deleted as I made sure that it was visible after I posted. It was 1-3 posts after Joey's ( 02.02.2009, 05:21 PM)

Hmmm...

Hi, I think you're referring to your own post, but on a different thread: http://www.infekted.org/virus/showthread.php?p=286703#post286703

Infekted is an unofficial virus forum - completely separate from Access and their employees. They have no influence on, or over, what we do. We really do not delete posts unless they are abusive.

Timo, do you want more new features or for Access to fix the most blindingly problematic issues? ;)

The TI is undoubtedly Access' most popular synth. If there are bugs that are reproduceable and they can fix it I'm sure they will try to do so if they can. A lot of people invested in the TIs.

Your concern is a very valid one.

To move forward and be constructive I can only suggest you continue to contact Access (Steve sounds very amicable, too!), or post up material here on Infekted (http://infekted.org/virus/showthread.php?t=30505) so that others may solidly reproduce and confirm the bugs for Access to attempt to fix.

emdebee

07.02.2009, 12:55 PM

Hi, I think you're referring to your own post, but on a different thread: http://www.infekted.org/virus/showthread.php?p=286703#post286703

Infekted is an unofficial virus forum - completely separate from Access and their employees. They have no influence on, or over, what we do. We really do not delete posts unless they are abusive.

The TI is undoubtedly Access' most popular synth. If there are bugs that are reproduceable and they can fix it I'm sure they will try to do so if they can. A lot of people invested in the TIs.

Your concern is a very valid one.

To move forward and be constructive I can only suggest you continue to contact Access (Steve sounds very amicable, too!), or post up material here on Infekted (http://infekted.org/virus/showthread.php?t=30505) so that others may solidly reproduce and confirm the bugs for Access to attempt to fix.

Fair enuf... will try to do! RE: the first bit - my memory is failing me ;) I have now responded to Marc in the thread that I originally posted in about this issue. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!

Sorry mate, I wasn't inferring anything untoward.

mphasis

07.02.2009, 01:40 PM

Seeing the preprogramed arps would be nice.

LivePsy

07.02.2009, 09:43 PM

we just had the hottest day ever on record in Melbourne (Australia) today - 46.4 Celsius Arghhh... and they say that global warming is a myth?

Please keep your brainwashing to yourself or put it in the off topic area. Completely irrelevant and wrong statement.

thomas

08.02.2009, 12:42 PM

In VC the option to randomize a certain section. Like a randomize option in the section lock pulldown menu.

And I would like the knobs on virus to transmit midi in VC mode (already know it's not gonna happen unfortunatly)

For the rest, i'm waiting for os3 to get official. Great it's availeble for TImk1 too :)

Cantankerous

08.02.2009, 04:37 PM

That randomize function is a really good idea. I would love to see that too. Imagine what sounds you could get without expecting them based on how each section randomizes. I bet you could get quite some interesting results and they would never be the same twice, unless the randomize function is weak. Any cool sounds that are produced can then be saved right to a user bank since lots are now freed up from past OS flashes.

Some other ideas mentioned that I would love to see are as follows:

1.) Have the mute button in VC respond when pressed within the sequencer. I know if you change volume from within your sequencer, you can see the volume slider moving in VC, so why not have mute light up in VC if you press it in your sequencer?

Perhaps add a solo option as well? If you have 3-4 parts going in VC, but only want to hear one, have a solo button which can also be illuminated from pressing the solo button from within your sequencer to single out only this one part. I know you can just do this from within your sequencer, but for those with limited screen real estate it would be nice to be able to do this if VC is currently hogging your screen visibility.

2.) Arpeggiators. Have preprogrammed arps in preset patches be visible from within VC when selecting said patches instead of having it look blank/default like it currently is. I would love to see just how those arps were created by having a visual representation.

Another really great idea which was mentioned, was being able to have arp data show as midi notes in a midi track for further editing, or other wild possibilities by having those notes trigger off say another patch on the Virus, or another sound from another source altogether. Perhaps you can just drag and drop from a small icon found on the arps page to a midi track in your sequencer and have it all layed out.

3.) See this thread here for an idea on custom views for channels in VC.

http://www.infekted.org/virus/showthread.php?p=286845#post286845

Alakhai

08.02.2009, 05:12 PM

custom wavetables! please! include a "import wavetable" function, a software wavetable editor and this synth will know no boundaries ;)

omniphonix

10.02.2009, 10:58 PM

3. Virus Control that works in a 64 bit operating system!!!!! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!

+1 billion

mutilatedlip

11.02.2009, 03:13 PM

+1 billion

Plus 1 Trillion.

I love my Virus. I've used it extensively on various recordings, a couple of hits, and now I've upgraded to Cubase 5 and 64 Bit as well as all my other hardware successfully transferring without hindrance, the Virus is sat behind...

Gutting, really, as it's by and far my favourite hardware.

I know it's a matter of time, but ffs HURRY UP! You have great products, great customer loyalty, so go that one step further and make it perfect, please!

isaac anthony

16.02.2009, 08:16 AM

more ARP usability (all has been said before). and it would be nice if there was rock-solid sync with cubase with multiple arps and different patterns all working together, but that might be steinbergs fault...

ps: digital screams: i don't think anyone is demanding anything here, just saying what we'd like to see in the future for a product we all paid a hefty sum for.

mitchiemasha

16.02.2009, 02:35 PM

i'm not so fussed on the 64 bit thing. jst means i get a lil bit more time to upgrade myself.

no point me splashing out on studio 5 and the rest of it yet when my virus aint going to work. one hell of an excuse for me to put off the dreaded transition.

civan

16.02.2009, 08:39 PM

Just out of curiosity, is there an expected release date for OS 3.1? I spoke to the guys at the Access booth at NAMM 2009 and they said they were working very hard on it.

swandiver32

18.02.2009, 05:36 PM

I currently own a Motif XS6, which of course already allows for a lot of analog-styles sound creation. I've been highly impressed by the Virus TI demos online (especially those YouTube videos by Keyboard Wizard--I forget how he spells it) and when I've demoed the TI in person. However, there seems to me to be somewhat of a "sameness" in many of the analog-styles sounds. I realize this was improved with the addition of wavetables. I'm seriously considering buying the TI2; however, I'm not quite sure I would get enough "bang for the buck" in sounds that are different from my Motif. I used to own an old Yamaha v-50 which was a 4-op FM synth, and it allowed for a highly diverse array of unique sounds. Yamaha has pretty much abandoned their FM synthesis, and I miss FM greatly. I've been wishing for a good FM synth for awhile (no, I didn't like the Alesis Fusion's sound). If Access were to add a fourth oscillator to the synth structure of the TI, and allowed them to be chained together in various algorithms such that 4-op FM synthesis were possible, that would *absolutely* tip me over the edge of buying it. So that's my request. Although the addition of a 1-pole filter and comb filter, and additional effects, etc. would all be nice sound enhancements, the addition of an additional oscillator in combination with 4-op synthesis would be a *huge* expansion in the sonic possibilities of the TI.

From my discussions with other keyboardists and synthesists, I think I'm far from alone in wanting a new FM synth. So please Access, if you can add 4-op FM synthesis to the TI, you would not only have me as a new customer for certain (and you may still attract me anyway), I think you would also expand your market to a significant new number of consumers.

Thank you very much for considering our suggestions.

Swandiver.

cl516

19.02.2009, 01:05 AM

I'm new here, just got a TI.

I'd like to see an oscillator as a mod source

modulating PWM and/or Filter Cutoff at audio-rate.

Subatomic

19.02.2009, 12:19 PM

I'm mainly concerned about the mod matrix, it's just not as extensive as I would like it to be. There are a lot parameters I would like to see there.

Apart from that, effects should all be syncable to tempo.

Last but not least, stability. My Virus Snow is constantly out of sync, beeping or not giving sound since OS 3.0. Changing an oscillator or patch just freezes the damn thing.

Totty

19.02.2009, 04:31 PM

I'm new here, just got a TI.

I'd like to see an oscillator as a mod source

modulating PWM and/or Filter Cutoff at audio-rate.

Can't see that one happening or it would have already happened methinks. I would reckon that audio rate modulation would be very dsp intensive. It probably is possible, but would reduce poly too low.

Still I'd love it:)

cl516

19.02.2009, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by cl516
I'm new here, just got a TI.

I'd like to see an oscillator as a mod source

modulating PWM and/or Filter Cutoff at audio-rate.
Can't see that one happening or it would have already happened methinks. I would reckon that audio rate modulation would be very dsp intensive. It probably is possible, but would reduce poly too low.

Still I'd love it

True. Maybe they could disable polyphony for these features and harness all the DSP to use during a forced mono. But I guess it's no big deal - it's not the reason I got the TI anyway.

Paprika

20.02.2009, 05:58 PM

1. Opportunity to change presets by h/w button within VC search/category results in browser. That's what we have Sequencer mode for.

2. Add controls buttons on VC to step through browser presets, or just damn bigger font in browser!

cl516

21.02.2009, 05:40 PM

****

MULTIMODE Low Key High Key:

When selecting keys, rather than tweaking the fiddly knob,

PLEASE LET US PLAY IN THE DESIRED NOTES!

****

boreg

22.02.2009, 07:52 AM

****

MULTIMODE Low Key High Key:

When selecting keys, rather than tweaking the fiddly knob,

PLEASE LET US PLAY IN THE DESIRED NOTES!

****

+100 on that!
It's such a simple feature, and requires no additional CPU power - I wonder why it hasn't been implemented already ;)

Actually, IMO the best would be Shift+desired MIDI key, otherwise it would be too easy to accidentally change.

MaF

24.02.2009, 03:53 PM

There are two ergonomic improvements I would like to be part of a finishesd OS3. 1. A save button that saves the currnt patch onto the same position. It's hard to always step through the whole folders. 2. In all the pull down menus make the currently selected item bold.

wildbill

02.03.2009, 08:41 PM

I'd like to see the Multimode parameters made available in VC sequencer mode - things like keyboard range, being able to set up splits and layers and so on.

Cantankerous

03.03.2009, 01:59 AM

I'd like to see the Multimode parameters made available in VC sequencer mode - things like keyboard range, being able to set up splits and layers and so on.

I second this. I used to love doing stuff like this with my Emu Sampler in the past.

gjvti

03.03.2009, 06:05 AM

I'd like to see the Multimode parameters made available in VC sequencer mode - things like keyboard range, being able to set up splits and layers and so on.

From what I understand, when you use VC you automatically put your hardware into sequencer mode, which is simplified multimode. Seq mode doesn't have those parameters and this is logical. Also VC is obviously not intended to edit multi so far. The problem I see there is - although you can save sequencer mode settings from VC to the device multi mode (via muti edit buffer), I haven't found the way to push multi mode settings from the device into VC to edit them in sequencer mode. So I find this limitation more crucial if this is true. Any comments?

thomas

13.03.2009, 12:17 PM

It would be nice to use the scroll button on my mouse to increase/ decrease the knob under the pointer by 1 value..

Skywalker

19.03.2009, 08:20 PM

A compressor to add to the effects section would be amazing.

jamie8286

20.03.2009, 12:43 AM

I would love my TI to have a some Multi stage envelope generators like on the zebra2 soft synth (also called performance env/lfo's on NI massive) Im getting alot of good sounds on them at the minute but would much rather be getting the sounds off my TI :cry:

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m65/jamie8286/multiegZebra2.jpg

absynth

20.03.2009, 03:04 PM

yes, 64BIT Driver Please!

or Access should seperate the TI Software from the Driver!

i think the drive is only needed if you are using the virus as a soundcard

Matt van k

20.03.2009, 04:17 PM

- Remote Control for the Virus TI Snow(Buttons)
- transfering soundz from Snow to TI1/2 via VirusControl or plugin.

orangeroom

20.03.2009, 04:36 PM

- Ability to disable all usb audio channels.
- Note select on ARP
- Internal bus routing (if possible)
- Comb filter
- Ability to play pong with softknob 1 against my virus :P

Cantankerous

20.03.2009, 04:50 PM

Obviously 64 bit support here as well, as the Ti is the ONLY thing in my setup that is not 64 bit compliant. VC doesn't need to be 64 bit, just the driver so it will actually install on a 64 bit OS without bombing out due to the driver being 32 bit. Like the Absynth posted above, have the driver seperate from the rest of the install.

Cantankerous

20.03.2009, 04:53 PM

I would also like to see a toggable option in the ARP page of Virus Control to turn the ARP NOTE SEND parameter ON/OFF at will if one wishes to dump arp notes or not for the selected patch. Currently you can only do this from the menu of the Ti hardware itself. Would be nice to be able to do it all from within VC. A small dropdown menu selecting enable/disable would be sufficient somewhere on the ARP page.

I remember in older OS releases, one had to enable/disable the Atomizer from the Ti Hardware itself, but in the latest OS3 I am now seeing this as an option in Virus Control. Would like to see the same done for the ARP NOTE SEND parameter.

Joey

22.03.2009, 05:47 AM

Ok lets try this again:

Noise as a mod source
Osc 1 2 or 3 as mod sources
a third envelope
comb filters!

i think thats all i'd need

zeno

22.03.2009, 11:18 PM

I've heard this time and time again from others:

We want the ability to modify the LFO rate when it's in CLOCK mode.

The TI is the most badass synth on the planet - EXCEPT for this feature. NEED THAT!!!

ShortBus

22.03.2009, 11:37 PM

Clocked lfo rate modulation , Editable Arp presets, comb filters and being able to map midi controls from peramiters in bank b,c and D.

cl516

23.03.2009, 08:36 PM

I have a feeling they won't ever add Oscillators as a Mod Source,

so all I'll ask for is how about letting us do just one more layer of FM?

say like Osc 3 modulates Osc 1 which is already modulating Osc 2.

Pighood

24.03.2009, 12:11 AM

THESCREWDIO

24.03.2009, 01:33 PM

****

MULTIMODE Low Key High Key:

When selecting keys, rather than tweaking the fiddly knob,

PLEASE LET US PLAY IN THE DESIRED NOTES!

****

This is huge for me. I use my TI keyboard as a live synth--I've got multi's made of patches allocated to different key ranges on my synth. It would be soooo much easier if there was a multi tab in the Virus Control plug-in to set this up and manage your multi's that way......

fgimian

25.03.2009, 01:37 AM

I haven't read the whole topic yet, but here are my feature requests:

- Syncable Phaser / Chorus
- More delay time algorithms: e.g. 3/16 on left and 1/4 on right, unless I am missing something, I can't seem to find this in v2, is it in v3?
- Less crackles when using many parts with Virus Control, this has been reported everywhere, and I am experiencing it too
- A way to use both additional USB outputs as sends (not just one) and rather than a balance control between Main and Surround, there should be a way to keep the original signal at its original level and just send it to those outputs, much rather like a send knob instead of a dry/wet control.
- Don't reflash OS during install if the version hasn't changed
- 64 bit support

If anyone actually thinks there is a way to do anything that I've asked, please let me know :)

Cheers

P.S.: Just read the thread and it appears that many people have mentioned some of my requests.

Ronkaz

26.03.2009, 08:56 AM

I haven't read the whole topic yet, but here are my feature requests:

- More delay time algorithms: e.g. 3/16 on left and 1/4 on right, unless I am missing something, I can't seem to find this in v2, is it in v3?
- Don't reflash OS during install if the version hasn't changed

these things are present in 3.0.1...

r

fgimian

26.03.2009, 09:05 AM

these things are present in 3.0.1...

r
Thanks mate, I've actually been using 3.0.1 just over the last day, and I'm afraid that the delay thing I'm referring to isn't really the same as I was hoping for.

If you set the delay as follows:

Left: 4/16
Right: 3/16

Then you actually get

Left: 4/16
Right: 4/16 with an initial delay of 3/16

Cheers :)

plaid_emu

05.04.2009, 06:51 PM

How about a patch randomization button within Virus Control? That way I can happily click away on my mouse instead of wearing down the buttons on the TI. Or better yet.... how about a "Program Genetics" feature like Soundtower's Evolver editor.

marc

05.04.2009, 08:23 PM

I haven't read the whole topic yet, but here are my feature requests:

- Syncable Phaser / Chorus

you can sync the phaser to the midi clock by using an LFO, targeting the phaser frequency. you need to put the phaser speed to 0 first.

best, marc

civan

10.04.2009, 08:58 PM

Cantankerous

11.04.2009, 01:21 AM

1)Are there any plans for a standalone mode for Virus Control?

2)When is the VC setting lock feature going to be fixed? In Version 3.0.10 I tried locking the Arp section and then changed the patch. The Arp was not saved even though it showed a lock.

Adding a randomize function would also be great. Instead of locking the current settings, perhaps one could choose a listing to randomize parmaters for that current section of VC. You could then lock that, move on to another section, randomize that etc. You would definitely get some unique sounds that way, and one could could always go back and tweak to their desire, the part they are not 100% happy with the way the randomize function set it self up.

Ronkaz

11.04.2009, 07:30 PM

Adding a randomize function would also be great. Instead of locking the current settings, perhaps one could choose a listing to randomize parmaters for that current section of VC. You could then lock that, move on to another section, randomize that etc. You would definitely get some unique sounds that way, and one could could always go back and tweak to their desire, the part they are not 100% happy with the way the randomize function set it self up.

Lock the sections you want and hit SHIFT+STORE for the random function.

r