TIOS 3.3.0.00 Beta is out (64 bit support!!)

[HUEY]

About TIOS 3.3.0.0 Public Beta
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This is a public beta which includes experimental support for Windows Vista (32 bit and 64 bit), Windows 7 (32 bit and 64 bit), MacOS 10.6 (32 and 64
bit). It shouldn't be used in a productive environment.
Supported operating systems:
- Windows XP SP2 (32 bit and 64 bit)
- Windows XP SP3 (32 bit and 64 bit)
- Windows Vista (32 bit and 64 bit)
- Windows 7 (32 bit and 64 bit)
Not supported:
- Windows server versions are not supported
Limitations:
The 64 bit versions do not support RTAS
Known issues:
- Occasional crash when re-installing or uninstalling the Virus TI Software Suite while a Virus TI is switched on and connected
Other resolved issues:
-DR: Audio input on Mac distorts (fixed)

Cheers

[additive]

woohoo! :) it's working!

[TheHobbit]

Fantastic news - W7 64 Ultimate on its way so waiting to hear how people get on, any glitches and progess...

...T H A N K Y O U Access :mrgreen:

[sdrr00]

link? theres no info on access website?

[shaneynclan]

is this release stable?

[HUEY]

link? theres no info on access website?

No info yet, but you can download it in the download section

br

[HUEY]

and the link:
http://www.access-music.de/page/render/lang/en/p/25/do/Downloads_user_manuals_and_additional_patches_for_the_virus_ti.html?id=1&cat=19

Cheers

[HUEY]

is this release stable?

It's a little bit early to say now I think
It's in the air for just a couple of hours

Try it out, it's beta you can always go back.

br

[Alakhai]

wooooo yeah! gj Access guys, I knew you would have done it in a short time! :D

ok now I can start thinking about my new desktop pc

[fgimian]

AWESOME!!!!!!! :) This is freaking great news, I am currently running Windows 7 x64 and Windows XP for my DAW, hopefully I can make it 7x64 all way round soon.

I'll be trying this very soon.

Thanks for keeping us in the know guys :)

[fgimian]

AWESOME!!!!!!! :) This is freaking great news, I am currently running Windows 7 x64 and Windows XP for my DAW, hopefully I can make it 7x64 all way round soon.

I'll be trying this very soon.

Thanks for keeping us in the know guys :)

[suzzymackenzie]

I have only a sketchy understanding of computer architecture. Evidently enabling Virus to take advantage of 64 bit processing is a Really Good Thing, but I would love for someone to explain what the implications are for Virus performance and/or music production more generally.

Suzzy :)

[Alakhai]

I have only a sketchy understanding of computer architecture. Evidently enabling Virus to take advantage of 64 bit processing is a Really Good Thing, but I would love for someone to explain what the implications are for Virus performance and/or music production more generally.

Suzzy :)

64 bit architecture enables you to use more RAM, more horsepower on the cpu etc. etc., more everything :D

[ni-cad]

Are there any improvements on the latency issues?

Am I right that the Virus is fitted only with USB 1 and that this is the main reason for the latency problems? Will this new driver help?

[shaneynclan]

It's a little bit early to say now I think
It's in the air for just a couple of hours

Try it out, it's beta you can always go back.

br
fair enough.

[ni-cad]

The physical knobs and keyboard on the Virus wont work at all, is this a bug or user error?

I'm running XP 64.

[Acidman]

There seem to have come alot of new patches. Iäm still using 2.7.5. Should I install a newer, if yes which one is stable? I read so many have problems with the new ones I always wait.

[emdebee]

Thanks Access... finally a version that actually works as expected with my problematic projects! Arps/Envs start on time and in phase, quantised notes sound quantised! Sounds much tighter! It's only taken 2 years... ;)

Now it's time to start using my TI again...

[rudewave]

I can't install that beta... when i run installation it says "Virus TI currently does not support 64 bit operating systems". I have XP SP2 64 bit. Somebody else??

[Guzzy]

I got the same problem with this update, the installer program for Windows(both XP 32-bit, and VISTA 64-bit) is finished before the Virus TI is upgraded (frezze on OS update in progress). Must fix the Virus TI by also upgrade it from my Mac.

[Natspace]

I will test it on Windows 7 64 Bit, but before i wait for my copy of Cubase 5 i bought yesterday!

[KEMIK]

My God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[wildbill]

I have only a sketchy understanding of computer architecture. Evidently enabling Virus to take advantage of 64 bit processing is a Really Good Thing, but I would love for someone to explain what the implications are for Virus performance and/or music production more generally.

Suzzy :)



In my case, my computer died, I got a new one that had Vista 64 installed and couldn't use Virus Control for about 8 months. I didn't use the TI much during that time because I've gotten so used to using VC from within Cubase.

I tried to post at the Access site, but I'm having trouble getting in there, so I'll put my comments here.

Thanks Access!

This has been the quickest, most trouble free OS install I've had with any of my Virus units. For the time I've been using it, I haven't run into any problems so far (got my fingers crossed still though).
Anyways - I'm very happy to have a 'fully functional' TI again.

[pacomac]

I've not been able to install the new version on 32bit version of Windows 7.

The installation should go as follows:

1) Run the installation.
2) Prompted to connect the Virus
3) Prompted to remove the Virus
4) Prompted to reconnect the Virus
5) Say NO to install another driver.

What actually happens is:

1) Run the installation.
2) Prompted to connect the Virus
3) Say NO to install another driver.

So the 'Install another Device' type dialog appears before the previous dialog has finished and if I say NO the whole driver installation is cancelled. It is as though the 'Install another Device' code is in a thread waiting for the main driver installation to complete, but gets it totally wrong.

P.S. I'm using an Intel i7 in a Gigabyte EX58-UD5 motherboard with Hyperthreading enabled.

Anyone else have this problem?

[wildbill]

Did you try saying 'Yes' to install another driver?

Mine went so smoothly on Vista 64 that I don't even remember what I did. I didn't plug/unplug my Virus at all - just clicked a couple on screen prompts.

[wildbill]

Sussy - AFAIK, there is no advantage of 64 bits that applies specifically to the Virus. The only difference 64 bit processing might have is from within your DAW - basically more headroom.

[pacomac]

Did you try saying 'Yes' to install another driver?

Mine went so smoothly on Vista 64 that I don't even remember what I did. I didn't plug/unplug my Virus at all - just clicked a couple on screen prompts.

Yes, but that didn't work either. In the end I gave up and installed Windows 7 64bit and the Virus 64bit driver installed fine. So there appears to be an issue installing the 32bit driver on Windows 7 32bit.

[sdrr00]

I've not been able to install the new version on 32bit version of Windows 7.

The installation should go as follows:

1) Run the installation.
2) Prompted to connect the Virus
3) Prompted to remove the Virus
4) Prompted to reconnect the Virus
5) Say NO to install another driver.

What actually happens is:

1) Run the installation.
2) Prompted to connect the Virus
3) Say NO to install another driver.

So the 'Install another Device' type dialog appears before the previous dialog has finished and if I say NO the whole driver installation is cancelled. It is as though the 'Install another Device' code is in a thread waiting for the main driver installation to complete, but gets it totally wrong.

P.S. I'm using an Intel i7 in a Gigabyte EX58-UD5 motherboard with Hyperthreading enabled.

Anyone else have this problem?

the new 3.3.0 beta drivers are for Windows 64-bit only...

- the 32-bit 3.3.0 beta driver is for 64-bit Windows running a 32-bit version of Virus Control in a 32/64-bit DAW

- the 64-bit 3.3.0 beta driver is for 64-bit Windows running a 64-bit version of Virus Control in a 64-bit DAW

the 32/64-bit title refers to the PLUGIN bit architecture, not the OS architecture.

[wildbill]

I just did one download and install and both 32 and 64 bit drivers showed up in the correct folders.

[TheHobbit]

Received my retail copy of W7 from microsft. Installed W7Ultimate 64bit with Cubase5 32/64 both appear to be working fine - great timing from Access.

[SimonStokes]

Could someone please post a direct link to this download? I can't register on the Access site as the registration form goes off the bottom of my screen! Never been able to use Virus Control so I am super excited about this! Plus, my Virus will be arriving back after being repaired in about 1 hour...woohooooo!

[Timo]

Hi Si, welcome to the forums!

Unfortunately I think registration is essential to download the OSs from Access' site.

If you have an alternative browser like Firefox or Chrome you could perhaps try one of those?

[rapapar]

Excellent!
I just install W7 64 on my computer, next I install the virus and it work only on 32bit! shit!! so I go on access web site and what I see, this new 64bit version!!! yyyyyyyyaaaaa!!!! I'm happy lol

I install cubase 4 on my new system and the last virus driver

Big problem to install the 3.3.0.0 on the TI but after many time it's now ok

When I remove the virus driver I have a blue screen (but it's written in the issue of the change log)

In cubase I dont see the vsti ... strange

Do I need a 64bit of cubase to run the 64bit virus control?


tks

[SimonStokes]

Thanks for the response Timo - I actually managed to get registered eventually - I had to hold control and use the mouse wheel to make everything tiny, then I could fill it all in! Crazy..

Do I need a 64bit of cubase to run the 64bit virus control?

Make sure you that when you are installing, you have both "Virus Control 32-Bit" and "Virus Control 64 bit" selected to install!

Cheers.. :D

[SimonStokes]

WARNING: Whilst updating the firmware on the Virus, the software came up and said that it was done, and to click finished. Since the Virus still said updating on the screen, I left it for around an hour. It was still stuck at the same updating screen so I tried to run the software again. No joy, so I pulled the plug on the Virus.

It's totally buggered now - the light above the Transpose buttons doesn't even come on when the unit is plugged in...any suggestions? Only got back from repair today!

Be careful!

[TheHobbit]

WARNING: Whilst updating the firmware on the Virus, the software came up and said that it was done, and to click finished. Since the Virus still said updating on the screen, I left it for around an hour. It was still stuck at the same updating screen so I tried to run the software again. No joy, so I pulled the plug on the Virus.

It's totally buggered now - the light above the Transpose buttons doesn't even come on when the unit is plugged in...any suggestions? Only got back from repair today!

Be careful!

Have you tried updating with the Virus in update mode...hard resetting the virus unit. Haven't had any problems with this since the pre 3.00 beta releases and now running the latest bios beta on W& no problems.

[SimonStokes]

Basically, I had to pull the plug for 30s and remove all audio cables, and turn the unit back on holding the Exit button, putting it into update mode. The 64 bit drivers wouldn't see the Virus when it was already in update mode - it would just say "Scanning for TIs...".

So, I had to go to my 32 bit laptop, install 3.2 again...fine. Tried 3.3 64 bit again, same issue. Then tried 3.3 32 bit - same issue again. Going back to 3.2 until it's fixed - not sure how Access manage to bugger something as stupid as the installer for a firmware update - that should be fundamentally stable!

Anyhoo, I'll wait again - glad that some progress is being made on the 64 bit front though. Hope other people have more success...

[wildbill]

Do I need a 64bit of cubase to run the 64bit virus control?

tks


The Cubase version you're using should match the Virus OS version you're using 32->32; 64->64.

I suppose you could use 32 Virus with 64 Cubase by going through the VST bridge, but there's no need to do that really - that's what the 64 bit Virus OS is for.

[fgimian]

Just a tip folks, I had the same problem where the installer finishes but the Virus is still updating. Personally, I just opened the Virus Centre software and did the update from there which worked correctly.

Hopefully Access can fix this, it has only been an issue in the newer drivers, also affecting XP.

[rapapar]

soundpalace I do the same thing it's working, no hard reboot needed like that
just retry install 3.3.0.0 many time and it finish by working lol

[SimonStokes]

soundpalace I do the same thing it's working, no hard reboot needed like that
just retry install 3.3.0.0 many time and it finish by working lol

Hi there - could you confirm what the Virus Center software is? This is the first chance I've had to use any Virus software on my PC and I still can't get 3.3 installed without the synth crashing half way through.

Any help is much appreciated! :)

[rapapar]

go to the windows start menu and it's the only tool you can execute (in more of a lot af pdf files)

[rapapar]

note: if you crash when uninstalling, just plug off the usb connection and then clic remove ;-) no blue screen like that

[DigitAl56K]

There is still a very annoying note stuck-on bug when the arpeggiator is in chord mode.

On Ti1:

1. Go to patch ROM-L 76 "MoonArp XM"
2. Play the intro to "Where the streets have no name" by holding C3 and playing C6, G5, F5, E5, F5, G5 repeatedly.

Almost immediately you should hear a note stick on. Its possible to do it also by just holding C3 and tapping C6 at the right moment.

Another thing I find a bit annoying is that normally the Value 3/Program knob is pretty high resolution but when trying to select a program in the Edit Multi menu it often jumps 2-3 patches at a time even when you move it very slowly so you can sometimes only choose the patch you want using the Patch +/- buttons.

Overall though the OS updates are getting better :)

[DigitAl56K]

marc (if you're reading),

Did something change in the effects/rendering in recent OS betas? Might just be that I'm wearing different headphones but the audio sounds a bit more present I think.

BTW someone needs to update the news feed on access-music.de, which still refers to the old beta.

[marc]

marc (if you're reading),

Did something change in the effects/rendering in recent OS betas? Might just be that I'm wearing different headphones but the audio sounds a bit more present I think.

BTW someone needs to update the news feed on access-music.de, which still refers to the old beta.

as for the changes, i don't think so. and thanks for the hint.

best, marc

[The Outsider]

I'm working on Ableton Live 8.0.9 & 7.0.16 ; so if there's really an improve in the rendering I will test your Beta (a little bit... ;))

Regards to MUSIC...

[The Outsider]

Hi

I'm working on Ableton Live 8.0.9 & 7.0.16 ; so if there's really an improve in the rendering I will test your Beta (a little bit... ;))

Regards to MUSIC... & Access to music

[sparkyidr]

Having all sorts of trouble.. can't even get the thing installed.
It all seems good untill the installer starts looking for the virus

Throws up an error box labeled "TBIA" with the message "The Data is Invalid"

anyone had this???

I hate this thing... I have never had an upgrade go smoothly with it in all the years I have had it.

Running Win7 64bit, and am currently on O.S. 3.0.0.0 btw.

[DigitAl56K]

Another issue still remaining, wonder if anyone else can verify since I only have one unit to test on:

1. Choose a patch that has both the mod and a performance knob routed to the filter cutoff e.g. ROM M-63 which has mod and value 3 routed to the filter

2. Set the mod wheel fully down

3. Turn value 3 so that the filter cutoff is changed. Play some notes to verify this.

4. Simply wait 2-3 minutes, then play a note. Notice that the filter cutoff has been set to the mod wheel position, even though you didn't move it. If you play a note while slightly moving the value 3 knob you'll hear it snap back.

I don't think these are phantom edits. I can verify that the mod wheel has a few mm of deadzone at its lowest position. I actually wonder if either the modwheel is occasionally polled regardless of if it is moved, or if the sound engine is periodically reset, which might explain some other occasional glitches.

Assuming that these are not phantom edits it's a pretty annoying performance problem because although the steps to reproduce the issue above have you avoid playing any notes for a couple of minutes for demonstration purposes, if I'm playing notes live it still periodically snaps to the mod wheel position.

[Kutyu]

Sorry if this question has been already anwsered, I didnt find it, but is anyone else having small issues with the 3.3.0.0 beta in windows 7? When I install the update, it tells me that it cannot install the usb driver so I should contact access, but the installer continues without problems. The second issue I have is that the Virus Control GUI is soooo slow to respond. For example when I change the pages its not smooth at all. I use FL so I dont know if this happenes with other hosts.

Is it just me or someone had the same thing?

[Atziluth]

@ Kutyu

If there is no problem with the installer and everything is right, so you have not to worry. But if you think it is important for ACCESS to know your issue so tell them.

Yes, it's normal that the GUI in Win7 is slow! So, don't worry. There have been changes in the adresses, so ACCESS must reprogram some things. Win XP and Win 7 aren't the same. You have to wait for another OS update because OS 3.3 won't solve this problem. So, maybe OS 3.4 will do!

Cheers