Need help identifying classic dance song

[MBTC]

This is an old song, I'm not sure how old, I'm gonna say 2000-ish. Heard it in a strip club several nights ago and the title is on the tip of my tongue (female vocalist says the title in the song but the DJ was playing a remix was that was all chopped up). It drives me nuts when I can't remember a song title/artist, I can't stop until I figure it out. I've conceded I need assistance to ID the song. Hopefully these two hooks will be enough for someone to recognize it and help me out.

I played two parts here... don't judge these clips in any way as I did not quantize or make any effort for it to sound good, I just played it enough to give the idea. I just grabbed a quick patch here but the lead riff is played with a house-chord sound in the real song, and the smaller riff is an arpy acid sound that finalizes the lead in the last bar in the real song.

Cannot remember this fucking title to save my life or the artist and have no better idea how to figure it out than to give examples. I think the title is four words long. HELP!

http://www.filedropper.com/mysterymeat0

http://www.filedropper.com/mysterymeat1

Also if anyone has a better idea on how to share these easily without registration etc. let me know. I tried uploading them directly and the forum didn't like it.

[MBTC]

I'm getting the impression this is going to be harder than I thought.

Here's another thought -- anyone have any thoughts on how to identify the song? Methods? Websites? any tips appreciated.

Usually I know some of the lyrics which of course makes it dead easy to dig up a song title, but when you can only tap out part of the groove, and you don't know if folks are taking the time to listen to the sound clips, this can be a tough exercise. I'm also wondering if it would make a difference if I played the lead using a patch that sounds more like the real track instead of just trying to convey melody? If you can try to imagine the mysterymeat0 clip with a detuned/warbley house chord sound instead of an acidy delayed sound like I used.

I've visually scanned a few lists of classic dance hits (it was a fairly popular song) but nothing jumped out at me yet. I'm probably going to take the question in front of a broader audience if no takers here, but I was having fun with the iconic riff thread so I thought why not.

[MBTC]

ok, question, did ANYONE who listened to the sound clips at least think to themselves "yeah I've heard the song but I can't name it"?

I'm wondering if I need to do the lead properly using a patch similar to the original, just to make it recognizable.

I didn't want to sit down and create something that sounded like the actual house chord warble lead because it's kind of unique and might be challenging to recreate convincingly, but then I realized the sound I used (which does sound like the secondary acid portion of the lead but a lot more reverby/delayed) might be throwing folks off.

I'm thinking about posting the question to a wider audience somewhere else after I re-do the lead. I won't stop until I figure this out. Lol.

[MBTC]

Still unidentified. If unsolved, the quest won't die until I do :)

There may be hope. I was not aware of the new channel "Utopia" on SiriusXM which plays dance hits of the 90s-2ks era, and I think this tune falls in that bucket, so maybe I'll hear it and get a shot at identification.

[mitchiemasha]

No sample in links!

[MBTC]

Thanks for the heads up, it seems file dropper links do expire :(

Thank god I saved that zip as I would have never been motivated to sit down and tap that one out again. It was fresh in my head at the time, I have not heard it since but have still been looking for it.

Hopefully this link will work?

Be sure to download the one with the captcha, this sharing sites and their fake download links..

http://www.filedropper.com/mysterymeat_2

I wonder how long ago that expired. Someone please reply to alert me in case the link isn't available and I'll figure out a better way to post it.

[TheHobbit]

Listened to both - not a cuckkoo, don't sound at all familar

[Timo]

Sorry, I have no clue as to the ID. I was quite active in listening to dance music at that time, but doesn't ring any bells.

However I've uploaded them for you. Use at will (elsewhere on the net if wished). Converted them to MP3 for quick access, given that sonic fidelity isn't an issue.

http://infekted.org/files/MBTC-MysteryMeat0.mp3
http://infekted.org/files/MBTC-MysteryMeat1.mp3

I'm also wondering if it would make a difference if I played the lead using a patch that sounds more like the real track instead of just trying to convey melody? If you can try to imagine the mysterymeat0 clip with a detuned/warbley house chord sound instead of an acidy delayed sound like I used.

Guess it may be easier if the style of the sounds were in a similar ball park, if they aren't already.

House chord, can you remember if they used an interval (3rd, 5th, 7th?)

[Berni]

Sounds vaguely familiar but got nothing, will suggest getting the free app for your smartphone Gsound. I use it all the time to identify tracks that are playing in public places it works pretty good. Either that or stop stuffing dollar bills into the strippers G-string for one second & go ask the DJ :p

[MBTC]

Sorry, I have no clue as to the ID. I was quite active in listening to dance music at that time, but doesn't ring any bells.

However I've uploaded them for you. Use at will (elsewhere on the net if wished). Converted them to MP3 for quick access, given that sonic fidelity isn't an issue.

http://infekted.org/files/MBTC-MysteryMeat0.mp3
http://infekted.org/files/MBTC-MysteryMeat1.mp3



Guess it may be easier if the style of the sounds were in a similar ball park, if they aren't already.

House chord, can you remember if they used an interval (3rd, 5th, 7th?)

Thanks for the uploads, that will save me some recurring hassle for sure.

I'm trying to play back that warble sound in my mind. I called it a house chord at the time but in retrospect I'm not sure now. I don't think it was an interval, it just had such an LFO warble on it that it almost sounds like a chord. I could be wrong about that. The DJ may have also been playing a remix that was a little different from the original, that's one reason I wanted to focus on the melodies more than the synth sounds.

Until I hear it again or something jogs my memory, those files are probably better than any recollection I could offer. I almost think if I tried to remember too much detail about it, I might get details wrong all these months later and make it even harder to figure out.

[MBTC]

Sounds vaguely familiar but got nothing, will suggest getting the free app for your smartphone Gsound. I use it all the time to identify tracks that are playing in public places it works pretty good. Either that or stop stuffing dollar bills into the strippers G-string for one second & go ask the DJ :p

Ha.. yeah, that is a future plan, only thing is I don't get to that place very often. I did go back a couple of times within a few weeks of posting the question, and didn't hear them play it again. It's a little hard to request they play it when I can't even describe it :) I didn't think about Gsound or one of those at the time, because as I was listening to it, the title was on the tip of my tongue and I was sure it was going to come to me as soon as I stopped trying so hard to remember (yet it never did).

Hmm... if I could just find a community or something of dance music nuts that specialize in identifying this stuff maybe I could link the files. It's a good sign I guess that it sounds remotely familiar to you, at least an indication I might have captured enough of it to identify.

Also not sure if I mentioned it has kind of a break beat groove to it. It's kind of an odd song for a strip club really.

[MBTC]

Listened to both - not a cuckkoo, don't sound at all familar

Crap - thanks for giving it a try .

[Timo]

Hmm... if I could just find a community or something of dance music nuts that specialize in identifying this stuff maybe I could link the files.

You reminded me, try this place:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?forumid=2

Used it about 15 years ago with varying degrees of success. Looks like the place is still active.

[MBTC]

You reminded me, try this place:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?forumid=2

Used it about 15 years ago with varying degrees of success. Looks like the place is still active.

Thanks, I registered so I can post, but as of now the activation email hasn't arrived -- hopefully its not a neglected project.

[MBTC]

Ok, another clue, trying to narrow down the genre a bit, I'm going to say the mix I heard is best categorized as a Florida Breaks style track.

It sounds similar (in genre) to the tracks in these mixes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpL7P0wg52M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U82-1-8gWj4

If you took the melodies I posted and try to imagine them in that genre, and throw in the female vocals you'd be amazingly close. I wouldn't be surprised if the artist is already represented in one of those mixes with a different title (I never did know the artist of this one, only the track name).

[MBTC]

UNFUCKING BELIEVABLE!!! Done and mother fucking D-O-N-E!

Right after I posted that last post, the goddamned title popped right in my head! If it only hadn't taken 4 months.. lol

"I do both Jay and Jane" by La Rissa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHTGnFT96Ew

Thanks for re-igniting this thread and getting me thinking about it again everyone. I was obviously wrong on a few points (number of words in title), probably should have described the lead as a warbly organ too.

It's a little hard to fully pay attention to a song's details when a stripper is grinding her cooch in your lap, so that's my excuse :)

Thank god I can sleep nights now :) Well as I said earlier, I never, ever give up.... lol

[MBTC]

Also forgot to mention, Gsound identified it quickly just from the Youtube clip, so good call on that one Berni. It's just that I couldn't get to the phone in my pocket at the time... well you know.... :D

(Didn't have Gsound installed at that time anyway)

[Timo]

Your melody was very close, even in pitch, less than a semitone out. Very different to the modulated 303 patch used though.

Well done in finding it. :) I can say I never heard the song before, so would never have guessed it in a million years.

Shazam is another app to ID commercial songs, with a 5 billion song database.

On the PC I used to use a little program called Tunatic which you could use to ID any streaming audio on your PC, but it seems to be defunct now.

Update: Seems Shazam have a free Windows 8 app which can use the PC's stereo mix. It quickly ID'd Jay and Jane from Youtube, and it's also just ID'd a number of few obscure tunes from my old 'to ID' collection. Ten years too late, mind!

[MBTC]

Yes, the patches I used were completely off. Part of the reason I didn't try to faithfully reproduce the actual sounds from the track was because I had left Cubase open with a couple of patches I was working on for something else, so I didn't even bother trying to locate similar patches or recreate them from memory. Naively, I thought it would either be identified, or the title would pop into my head within a day or two -- later I realized I might have been better off at least conveying the warble lead as the track was harder to identify than I thought.

To me melodies are always what stay in my head as the identifiable element more than the actual sounds used (i.e., playing a particular song's melody on a different instrument results in a greater likeness of the track than using the same patches to play a different melody).

But yes, it is kind of an obscure track. I searched around for details about "LaRrissa" and didn't find much, so I'm guessing kind of a one-hit wonder (and an underground hit at that). I've heard it at a couple of places 10-12 years ago, but more recently I think that particular club is the only place I've heard play it.

Will check out Shazam too, thanks.