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TommyS 30.03.2004 07:32 AM

DS i have some pdf books on sequencers and midi. I can send them to you if you like. They come in very handy.

:D

Juho L 30.03.2004 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by hatembr
...just spend one day...

Day? You don't even need 30 minutes for that.

DIGITAL SCREAMS 30.03.2004 08:23 AM

Hey Tommy that would be great thx!

Send to >>> ps11jb@surrey.ac.uk

Perhaps I should upgrade from Cubase Vst 5.1 to SX? Will that make midi any easier?

What I really need to know is how u write tracks using midi. It seems very weird to me. Do u guys play notes in....then once in...u edit them (i.e. cut/paste/loop/quantise/change-note-length.......perhaps even change notes and octaves). It seems a very time consuming process.

For example...if u wanted to do a simple four note arpegio....do u drop the notes in using ur mouse button...then play around with it. It amazes me that peopel can make complex trance music using midi. It must taking fuking yrs to do. Heheh

Ill learn one day!

DS

hatembr 30.03.2004 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Juho L
Day? You don't even need 30 minutes for that.

i took the worst case :) i am a bit pessimistic sometimes




DS: YES upgrade. There is no comparison to make between 5.1 and SX/SX2 for midi.
As far as your apreggios go, u can enable recording on your midi track and play your four notes arpeg live. Hit stop, and you'll find the notes you played in the sequencer. Then you can do what u want with them... copy, paste, note length...
And you can also open your sequencer and put your notes directly there without live recording. Thats what i do since i am not a big keyb player :)

Juho L 30.03.2004 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DIGITAL SCREAMS
It must taking fuking yrs to do. Heheh

I really don't understand why people are using cars because cars are really time consuming! I've been using horse carts for years and it's the best way to move. I wonder how does cars can even exist anymore. You have to struggle with doors and seat belts. Also there's gasoline, oil and mainetance issues! It's insane that people use cars! I just hop in my horse cart and off I go.

Edit: And I thought Jethro Tull was living in the past.

Edit 2: I wonder which one takes more time:

1. Playing a part to MIDI and then fixing the bumnotes and adding some quantizise. Probably try out to move tha part up and down few octaves.

or

2. Playing a part to audio. Noticing some bumnotes and recording again. Then thinking this could sound a bit better octave higher and playing the part again. Then deciding that the last note could be better to be E flat than G. Recording again. To make this part simple I'm not taking any manual filtersweeps and other modulation in this example.

MIDI is the ultimate tool for electronic music production! Not using MIDI is like driving around with a horse cart instead of a car.

hatembr 30.03.2004 12:31 PM

:arrow: +1

:lol:

TommyS 30.03.2004 02:45 PM

DS they books are on there way now.

:D

Hollowcell 30.03.2004 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hatembr
DS: YES upgrade. There is no comparison to make between 5.1 and SX/SX2 for midi.
As far as your apreggios go, u can enable recording on your midi track and play your four notes arpeg live. Hit stop, and you'll find the notes you played in the sequencer. Then you can do what u want with them... copy, paste, note length...
And you can also open your sequencer and put your notes directly there without live recording. Thats what i do since i am not a big keyb player :)

Umm, I use VST32 5.0 and it works excactly the same way Hatembr. Maybe you mean something else?

Once you have midi all worked out DS you will be surprised with the flexibility. Recording to audio straight away kind of sets the sound in stone, but having everything midi first lets you edit the sound for the final recording.

Plus when you record to audio straight away it's difficult to turn lots of knobs as you play isn't it. Well, midi lets you record all knob turns one at a time.

Good luck DS! :)

DIGITAL SCREAMS 31.03.2004 05:55 AM

Thx HC

Yes thats the version I got too...VST32 5.1 (well actually 5.0 cos I cant upgrade a cracked copy ehheeh)

Im going to learn how to use midi.......as my professors at university keep telling me...if you find something difficult 'then its worth learning'

True!

DS

hatembr 31.03.2004 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Hollowcell
Umm, I use VST32 5.0 and it works excactly the same way Hatembr. Maybe you mean something else?


yes, i was talking about how easy the automation is, preset curves, note editing is more precise than 5.1, inserts..... it's well orgnized, better than the 5.1 i think...


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