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AlexHall74 17.12.2004 03:56 PM

OK; BIG DIFFERENCE!

I will make note of this and execute your earlier instructions once again:

I also got this message from Access regarding this issue; please tell me what you think of thier response:

Quote:

ACCESS SUPPORT WROTE:

Hello Alex,

Thank you for your mail.
I'm very sorry but there is no additional documentation available for the Virus, especially when it
comes to use the Virus' Multimode.

I recommend to use the Multi Program M0 "Sequencer", since this one is already preprogrammed for
having each PART on a different Midi Channel. This Multi Program has PART 1 on Midi Channel 1,
PART 2 on Midi Channel 2 and so on.
Probably you should use this particular Mulit Program to start with.

Here's some additonal information on the Multimode in general:

To be able to play the Virus multitimbrally, you need to switch to MULTIMODE first. Here you can
switch sounds and setup the Multi Program by simply entering the CTRL Menu (Virus "a" or b series)
or the SYSTEM/MULTI EDIT menu (Virus c series).
Here you switch between the different menu entries with the PARAMETER buttons while you can
change the parameters with the VALUE knob or VALUE buttons. With the PART buttons (in case you're
using the Virus b or c models) you can switch between the up to 16 PARTs in Multimode and change
the settings for each part (sound selection, volume, Midi Channel, Output, Transpose, Key Range
etc.).

Whenever you're done with setting up your Multi Program make sure to save it by pushing the STORE
button. Now you can change the memory position and name with the help of the PARMAETER and
VALUE buttons.

It is even easier to choose different sounds for the different PARTs by switching to the MULTI-
SINGLE-MODE. This mode is nearly exactly the same than the MULTIMODE, but the display shows the
selected Single-Sound per Part, not the name and number of the select MULTI PROGRAM.

Thank god I have this weekend to really get into this process and try to solve it. I lvoe what my board can do in single mode. I can't imagine how cool it sounds playing multiple timbres.

Thanks for your help Onkel Dunkel!

-AlexHall74

Onkel Dunkel 17.12.2004 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexHall74
I also got this message from Access regarding this issue; please tell me what you think of thier response:

I think they misunderstood you. You wanted to layer sounds right? I think that Access thinks that you want to use each part on a different MIDI-channel in a sequenser (did that make sence :? ). At least that?s what you want to use "M0 sequenser" for. If you want to layer sounds you need them on the same MIDI-channel. If you want to listen to some examples of sound-layering try some of the other multies from the factory sound bank...

AlexHall74 17.12.2004 04:21 PM

YOU ARE CORRECT!

I WANT TO LAYER SOUNDS; SO TO DO SO...


Quote:

Onkel Dunkel; this is from your earlier instructions...
>Select multi-mode
> Press "system/multi edit"
> Press "parameter" until the display says "midichannel" and a number

Alex:
[SHOULD THE DISPLAY LOOKS LIKE THIS NOW:]
1 MIDI
Midichannel 1<

NOW TO SELECT THE PARTS TO PLAY AT THE SAME TIME...

> Select the part (by pressing"part") you want to assign a midi-channel for

> Select the midi-channel you want to use for this part (DON'T ALL PARTS HAVE TO BE ON HE SAME MIDI CHANNEL IF ALL THREE PARTS ARE TO BE PLAYED AT THE SAME TIME???)
Does this seem like it will work?

Should I save the patch the same way as you specified before?
Does it automatically get saved in the edit buffer?

Regards,

-AlexHall74

mcoyote 17.12.2004 04:25 PM

Re: OK, now for part 2 of this post!
 
Actually, I think the information you need was covered here:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onkel Dunkel
Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexHall74
...HOW DO I LAYER MULTIPLE PATCHES TO ONE MIDI CHANNEL? Did I totally miss this in the manual?

> Select multi-mode
> Press "system/multi edit"
> Press "parameter" until the display says "midichannel" and a number
> Select the part (by pressing"part") you want to assign a midi-channel for
> Select the midi-channel you want to use for this part...


AlexHall74 17.12.2004 04:32 PM

OK, I tried this but used GlobalChan 1< so maybe it did not work; I still have a question:

mcoyote wrote:
>Select the part (by pressing"part") you want to assign a midi-channel for

I ONLY WANT ONE MIDI CHANNEL IF I WANT ALL PARTS TO PLAY AT ONCE, RIGHT?

> Select the midi-channel you want to use for this part... (AGAIN, ALL PARTS SHOULD USE THE SAME MIDI CHANNEL TO PLAY AT ONCE RIGHT? ALSO, How does the Virus display that three Parts are assigned to one Midi channel?

For instance...

M1
Prions+Star PAD+Vindicator

I'm sorry if I am writing this in a confusing manner it is just difficult for me to think out exactly how the thinkg is layed out and how it responds to sequential commands as such.

I really appreciate this input as ultimately, somehow it will all help me achieve the desired result this weekend.

Have I obscured anything with this info?

-AlexHall74

Onkel Dunkel 17.12.2004 07:25 PM

Think of it this way. Your keyboard only transmits on one MIDI-channel at time. Lets say that this is channel 1 (witch it proberbly is). This means that ALL the sounds you want to hear should be set to MIDI-channel 1 and all the sounds you DON?T want to hear should be set to anything else than Channel 1.

AlexHall74 17.12.2004 07:29 PM

That is a sobering closing thought to this monster thread!

I will read this over and try to execute these instructions until I get it to work.

I'll re-post when I get this to work.

Thank you gentlemen for all your help and please have a fun, safe, and interesting weekend!

Ciao! :D

-AlexHall74

Panopticon 18.12.2004 09:52 AM

Are you using Soundiver? Multi-mode is much easier to get your head around with a everything represented on one screen at one time. Programming with Soundiver is a breeze. There have been others who've had issues with it, but I've never had one, and I use it for all my programming and MIDI library needs.

jasedee 18.12.2004 09:54 AM

Yeah.....Sound Diver ROCKS!!!!!

AlexHall74 18.12.2004 12:34 PM

Hey Jasedee and Panoptican!

I have not loaded up Sound Diver yet.
(DUHHHHH!! Stupid, impatient American!)

I am loading it up now.

I much prefer a PC interface to a 1" by 3" monochrome screen.

I'll try the info posted above since so much effort was put into delivering it to me and then try the Sound Diver route.

There is more than one way to skin a cat; the more ways you know the better as circumstances will ultimately vary in the field.

Thanks mates!

-AlexHall74


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