heheh. C13 definitely has a 9th in it. i remember cuz its another one of those things that was never really explained to me.

the 6th 'A' is different to the 13th 'A' obviously cuz they are an octave apart. its the same key register but it'll sound different in terms of pitch and frequency which is an important distinction.

the reason we use 'add' is when we want to add 9th or 11th or 13th or whatever single notes to an existing chord, but not the notes in between. only really applies with the larger chords.

if a C13 is C, E, G, Bb, D, A

a C9add13 would a C9 chord (C, E, G, Bb, D) + 13th (A)

by extension

a C7add13 would a C7 chord (C, E, G, Bb) + 13th (A)

no 9th.

so a C7 add 6 = C, E, G, Bb + the 6th note of the scale A (not the 13th A which has a much higher frequency)

because you are counting up that would kind of mean you are playing C, E, G, A, Bb

which i thought would be C6 + 7th. im confused about that example and it would be cool if you could check with your piano teacher to clear this up

Are you guys sure that a C7 is even in the scale of C? Bb kinda makes me think that its the V7 of F which makes sense CEGBb would be what you would use is you wanted the V7 of the I in Fmaj...

But i could be wrong im use to the Roman numerals!! The whole guitar theory/ jazz theory system...not sure what to call it is a bit different than what im use to...

As for Diminished: A diminished triad consists of a minor third and a diminished fifth above the root, or two minor thirds from the root upward
(ie-E-Ab-Cb known as a Diminished fifth[d5])

As for Augmented: Am augmented triad consists of a major third and an augmented fifth above the root, or two major thirds from the root upward.
(ie- E-A-C# known as an Augmented fifth [A5])

Also note you can invert a d5 and get an A4....

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sorry but... flew. over. my head. whooooooooooooooosh. could you maybe explain this in english? parle vous anglais ? :D

*seaching* where the f*ck is that "V" and "I" on my keyboard. Could you tell me how to do a Vsus4 :lol:

hmmmm. your keyboard must be different from mine...

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Dominant 5th or V7 chords!

I-ii-iii-IV-V-vi-vii
Major Scale- if you count the roman numerals you will realize for F it would be as follows

F-G-A-Bb-C-D-E

Then you take a C7 chord

C-E-G-Bb---which understanding how you make a chord is by every other letter of the scale and then you can invert it unless of course you are using non harmonic tones, like passing tone neighboring tone, suspension, Retardation, Anticipation, Appoggiatura, Escape tone, Successive neighbors, and pedal....so you can start with say F of the scale and know that F A C is a chord...notice every other letter...I believe writing it makes it easier to understand rather then learning just chords...and if im right about the C7 then an F7 would be as follows: F# A# C# E? correct? This would make it a dominant 7th or the Tonic or V7 of I!!

As for Vsus4? You will be able to start using suspension chords much easier is you read on how they are used and not the chord itself...they are a non harmonic tone that can be used harmonically...but tend to work better non harmonically or chromatically...what i am saying is you will get the most out of a suspension when it is placed in a spot where you resolve it...The 4 3 suspension or 4 is used when you suspend a note a fourth above the root or I...(ie A-C-E then to A-E-B then resolves to G-E-B) so the A is a fouth above E...so technically you would say that AEB is a sus4 chord...so you could say that you can take the 3rd out of a chord and replace it with a 4th and you will get a sus4 chord... so C-F-G, A-D-E, G-C-B....blah blah blah....but its not really good to think of it this way because its not really a chord...its a melodic tool to give a piece more excitment, conflict, and interest! And thats just Sus4 we still have the others!!

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Actually if you think about it your keyboard doesnt have CDEFGAB either!!

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Muahahaha! Classic!

Hehehe, the Tarnce keyboard is direct competition for the TRS1000!

Classic. :D

Anyone here have anything to say about what i wrote? I thought we were discussing music not putting down Tarnce, Tceho, gao, durm adn bsas, flok, rcock adn rlol, or ppo music :lol:

you get the point!! :wink:

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