im not sure why i have to tell you the advantages of recording and mixing
a project higher then 16 bit.
it is widely known.

but anyway in 24 bit, you would have to mix 48 db (!!!!)
lower to equal 16 bit resolution. Digital summing busses go to pieces if you are running each channel peaking high.
it comes down to headroom.

funny alot of the music made with the virus goes to vinyl
and vinyl mastering i have dealt with let me go 24/96.

i feel i have more control over the mix @higher resolutions.
its smaller increments.higher resolution.
makes simple sence.

i wouldnt have a problem if it would let me use my host @ 96k
it wouldnt matter if the virus streams are 44k.
but the problem is i would have to turn my whole hosts resolution
down and i have gotten so used to the higher level....
so that would be a real drag.

still havent got confirmation that i cant do it..

i want the host resolution (nuendo 3)
project set for 24/96
so all my mixing and effects are done @that resolution
is it possible to have the usb streams in at there resolution of 16/44
at the same time?

if this is possible i will be not let down at all by the virus.
but im not thinking this is possible.

it is my understanding that i would have to use the host resolution of
16/44 to be able to use the "total intergration"

i hope i am wrong. and it is possible.

what i cant figure out is why have 24/192 converters if you cant use that resolution?

Remember the analog outputs on the TI.....they can be used you know :lol:

For those who want to use the USB feature...then you'll just have to make that comprimise I guess. If your using decent quality cable....then the difference between analog outs and digital outs should be practically in audiable.....so whats the problem? You want to embrace the Total Integration feature that bad?

Great recordings have been made using analog outs for the past 30 years....I doubt its going to affect your quality....

DS

well it is called the virus ti...
and that is one of the factors that drew me to it.

no problem with using the analog outs.
but i have no room left.
i would have to get another i/o for my computer.

which in turn makes me a bit sour on it.

why do you act like it is so outrageous to be thinking this?

i know you have to justify the purchase.
but why can you not see that this lack of feature is a downer.

no you just try and explain why what i want to do isnt nessasary.
and it really isnt alot to ask for at all!

especially with a name like TI

i mean look at the current market of audio cards
they are not 16/44 cards.

it isnt the synth engin that makes me upset that would be fine
but its the fact that i will have to have my whole project at the lower rate.
that will not intergrate with how im working
or how anyone works in other then 16/44

this to me is a problem

[quote="DIGITAL SCREAMS"]Because they're great convertors anyway, even at more lowly bitrates.

hi Ben watched those 2 videos so often i feel like i know you :lol:

so i am right to believe that i can NOT have a host project digital rate
other than 16/44 if i want to use the USB audio streaming.?

is it likely that the Ti will get 1 24/96k stream possible?

u dont get it
of course work with 24 bit beetter couse it give u mpre space in ur mixes....
but better and tested way to work is with 24/44 or 16/44
and after u done export to wav in 24 bit for master
and after mastering the 24 bit/44 khz u export it to 16 bit wav file and send to some vinal label :twisted: :idea: :twisted:
if u lucky u get alot of money :twisted: :twisted: :idea:
this is how its done almost everywhere....
and 1 more thing for thought :
lets say:some1 mentioned that there are major benefits and improvments in sound with 96khz///
so if what u say its thrue why almost all module racks synths work in 16/44 and u get best sound's
aaaaaaa
this is the shit..
think about it.

If TI works @ 44kHz, it doesn't mean that you have to work @ 16bit 44.1Khz. You can work at 24bit 44.1kHz too and that's what most of producers use. Of course it's great to test that your system can work @96kHz but it's not very cool to notice that 1 soft synth or just a few effects need all your cpu's. I prefer working at 24bit 44.1kHz, good sound quality and plenty of power to play with. Of course you can use whatever sample rate you wish but you will find more problems (the TI for example) working at 96kHz. Of course it depends on what kind of music you produce but at least electronic music doesn't benefit much from using higher sample rates. It's another story if you record a rock band or symphony orchestra and make hifi records or film music, I guess.

i personally like 16 bit 44.1, the reason is it by far is the toughest sounding.

a nice tough edge - to knock "em

The TI soundcard and Virus sound-engine integrated element uses just 16-bits?

yup thats right!
hey but all these people say you dont need higher bit
rates!

in fact work at 24/44
and then convert it later!

what a bunch of rubish!
you like 16/44 because it has a tuff edge?
please any tuff edge will sound just as tuff @ a HIGHER RATE

people are a funny bunch.

doent really matter...for me and the way i work
this is a big problem
and i have canceled my order because of it.

its funny its not so obvious that this is the case with the TI
it only totally intergrates if you work @ 16/44

but according to most here you dont even need anything higher...
in fact im probably an idiot for going higher.

yea sure