That PoCo Elements is nice but the problem is that I really don't have that much money. I have about 400 euros to spend on that card so only way to get a good card is to get it second hand. And PoCo doesn't work as an sound card so I'd have to get a sound card as an addition to that. That's just way over my budget. I'll stick with the plan of Pulsar II.

Pulsar II sounds like a good plan - stick to it :wink:

You can always add a PoCo later I guess :D

http://www.creamware2.de/cw2/files/demosongs/Puls8.mp3

This is bloody good! I really like the sound of this card. I just found cheap Pulsar I so that probelm is solved now.

pulsar 1 ? hmmm
you must get some dsp expention
3 dsp wont give you much

Actually I don't. I'll be using the Pulsar for bass and leads so I don't need huge polyphony. I'll be making pads and EFX with various basic VSTi's.

cool
anyway if you want to add more dsp later its not very expensive
i think its 200-300 euro for the xtc card with 4 more dsp

I've been stupid. Just tried out VirSyn Tera & Cube, Novation V-station and Arturia plugins. Why on earth I haven't switched on software earlier! The first plugin I tried out was that Tera. Well, the effect was quite astonishing when you expect something banal but the software turns out to sound nearly good as hardware (and consuming 50% of CPU n 1,4GHz Athlon). This is insane! The VST plugins really have gone forward since I last time bothered to try them out. Seems like I'm leaving hardware for good.

Just make sure you hybrid the setup a bit Juho!

Going all software with no external control is crazy! You still need a way to mix and eq with hands on controlls IMO. Also it's nice to run your vocal though a valve instead of a software amp sim! I think the software route is fine as long as you have the money to buy the latest in full digital technology.

My advice is; Go and play an analogue synth sometime Juho.

And to quote you "nearly as good as hardware" :wink:

I have to admit, there are some great sounding softies now days, but put them next to a VA - yeh. nearly as good (some are better than VA even). Put them next to an analogue - 8O .

Juho: Software sound good these days, but still it's not using the real thing - or maybe if you'd get alot of controllers lika a Evolution UC-33 [http://www.evolution.co.uk/products/evo_uc33e.htm].. then you get hand on some control anyway

MIDI controllers naturally are part of anykind of studio setup so going in complete software setup doesn't mean you don't have controllers.

And this is the last thing I'd use MIDI controller for. You have really strange habits.

Actually same goes for hardware in exception that nice hardware setup is going to cost you way more money.

You're having quite strange logic here. You're strarting to compare digital and analog stuff. Hoho. Trying desperately to get me stay in hardware?