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Panopticon 14.11.2004 01:38 AM

I don't know if you use PC or Mac, but if you happen to be on a Mac the reverb to have is definitely Altiverb, it outshines all but the highest end ($15k) units, and it's even better than those on some material (e.g. drums).

edit- but that's just reverb, not too good of a choice if you need other effects. Yeah, I'd check out the M-ONE XL by T.C. if I were you...

jasedee 14.11.2004 05:05 AM

I have both a TC Works M300 and a Lexicon MPX110, as well as the Native bundle plug-ins from TC Works.

The 2 hardware units are pretty similar, although the M300 has S/PDIF Ins and Outs, the MPX110 only has outs. This means with the M300 I can use it like I would a normal plugin, and then record the wet sound to my sequencer, saving me processing for other duties...

This is the thing with hard Vs. soft........A hardware processor wont take up precious processing power with hungry reverbs, a plug-in will however, unless it is a dedicated DSP style PCI/Firewire unit.

So a plug-in might well take its reverb from top of the line units costing $16k, but it will eat the shit out of your CPU......

All the hardware budget reverbs you are looking at will sound pretty much the same, I would recommend something like a Powercore with reverb (and you could get virus too!) or if you think you might need dynamics processing too, get the UAD-1

Good luck!

Drammy 14.11.2004 12:07 PM

I am actually in the process of selling off a load of kit so if anyone wants any of the following let me know

Virus C XL - sold.
Lexicon MPX500 - ?160
TC Electronic Triple C - ?140
Soundcraft S200 B - ?360
Remote 25 - ?120

Martyn


PS.
If anyone wants me to run the same sounds through the Powercore to hear the Classicverb in action let me know...

blay 15.11.2004 11:09 AM

[quote]The 2 hardware units are pretty similar, although the M300 has S/PDIF Ins and Outs, the MPX110 only has outs. This means with the M300 I can use it like I would a normal plugin, and then record the wet sound to my sequencer, saving me processing for other duties...
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the m300 is quite cheap at the moment....
id be interested to hear any sort of review on this unit you can give jasedee :wink:
how do you think it stacks up against plugin bundles such as the waves collection?

jasedee 15.11.2004 11:39 AM

The M300 is dirt cheap! I picked it up off eBay for around $250 AUD incl. shipping....brand new, in the box, and probably saved at least $300

I cant compare it to the waves bundle, having never tried it.

It is a largely preset based FX unit, although it does have some control over decay, pre delay, and 'colour'. Also, the main benefit is that it will not eat up your CPU, as most plugin based reverbs are very processor hungry. Also, having S/PDIF I/O means I can send a signal digitally to the M300, and then digitally back, so there is no AD/DA stage. Very cool. It takes its reverb algorithyms from the high-end TC Electronics reverb engines, and they are nice. And then it also includes some other FX/compression/de-esser etc

If you have a fast and capable computer, then the plugin reverbs are just as good, if not better. And if you have something like the Powercore compact, or UAD-1, then you would definately be better off with this rather than the M300

Personally, I quite like having outboard gear. And it goes well when I mix through my old analogue console.....

blay 15.11.2004 11:59 AM

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Also, having S/PDIF I/O means I can send a signal digitally to the M300, and then digitally back, so there is no AD/DA stage.
i like the idea of that. loving the fact the new virus TI has s/pdif in/out :wink:



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Personally, I quite like having outboard gear.
me also. when i get around to buying outboard fx i think i might save my dollars and get the lexicon mpx-1 (dual dsp mmm)

blay 15.11.2004 12:01 PM

btw jasedee - thanks for your info :D

(i can be quite rude at times :( )

saba 15.11.2004 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by blay
i like the idea of that. loving the fact the new virus TI has s/pdif in/out :wink:

Indeed; you can do your work entirely in the digital domain. Utterly lovely.
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blay 15.11.2004 01:28 PM

brilliant! just...brilliant :D


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