DS...

Psy trance has been around for at least 10 years, probably a fair bit longer as I was playing it like 8 years ago.

Check out Flying Rhino records, Cosmophilia, Transient, Krembo, TIP, Blueroom (All record labels with loads of cool psytrance mostly from back in the day when it was still clever and had lots of imagination.)

If you like big synth-soundscapes and stuff, you will love some psy trance.

Well big is a relative term, and Goa trance which is what psy trance originally was called started in the early 90s and got its name due to the fact that it was first played at parties in Goa, India (by drugged out hippies :) ) It started getting more well known around 94/95

Well, it still seems to be a lot about the full-on sound, but that is the more commercial side of it.

Infected Mushroom started producing quite late in the picture. Hallucinogen defined the genre, along with The Infinity Project and Astral Projection and a few other early producers.

GMS are now quite full-on and cheesy in my opinion. If you are looking at newer psy I'd try some Antix for progressive stuff and Protoculture or Wrecked Machines for more full on without going too cheesy.

I had a supernova 2 keyboard 2 years ago and it was a fantastic synth. So I sold it for some reason. Yesterday I finally sold my pc and got money to buy supernova 2 rack and that was a really good investment. I didn't remember how good the sn2 sounded. I like the rack very much. It also has all the most important buttons and knobs in the front panel so there's not much menu tweaking. Of course some things have to be tweaked in the menus but it's very logical how it works.

The synth is also very good and powerful looking. I like the sound very much. The filters are good and the distortion sound good to be a digital distortion. Also like we know, all the parts have their own effects so the patches don't change at all altough you use the multi mode which is great. I am planning to get a behringer ada8000 adat-box very soon to be able to use all the outputs. I thinks supernova is one of the best synths by sound and features and ease of use. I was playing one pad sound last night for 2 hours and almost cried. I had been looking for that kind of pad sound for years and wondered where those producers get that sound from. FROM THE SUPERNOVA! Strange that I didn't notice that kind of sound last time when I had the keyb. Of course virus and jp sound fantastic too but I just love the supernova. It is here to stay now like are all the other synths too.

If you want to take a look at it, check here (I also posted this link in another topic but I guess not many clicked the link because the name of the link was a little mysterious): my supernova2

The nords are great too. I had a nord modular keyb which was pain to use without the editor but otherwise it was a great synth. The sounds were fantastic but you had to program then yourself. The presets sucked a big time. A Nord 2 is a good synth too but I would get a supernova instead.

F5D..Would be nice if you could post some audio samples :)
I've been looking to get a supernova instead of TI :)

I wasnt dissing the nord lovers, I was comenting the novation hater! err.. anyway, shure the nordlead 1 was used a lot, but to day its colecting dust to me! Id much rather go for nordlead2! And much rather a novation, as you can do much more with those.

I look at nordlead 1 as the symbol of the first VA synths, so naturaly its outdated by now. For me it is stoneaged, and if you look at using it like it is, youd be much more happy with an old analog clasic synth (or what, DS? ;-) ). Because the nordlead 1 is very limited. (try synth1 instead, its free!) To day if I was to purcase it, id much rather look at software synths. If your on a budget, that is!

But for heavens sake, I respect nordlead 1 ;-)

F5D: How much did you paid for your SUpernova 2?

I'm looking in getting one, decided to give up on the TI.

Usually the prices for sn2 rack are around 700-900 euros.

I'm just searching for a nord rack 2 to complete my rack. I also got the virus powercore plugin running very well on my new powercore pci mk2. I'm gonna get another of those and a multi license again (I already had a virus multi but sold it due to a DAW compatibility problem).

OK....here's the latest.

As I mentioned I opted for the Motif ES Rack, but ended up returning it and getting an ONYX 1640.

I knew there was no pre-eq on the direct outs before I bought it, but no pre-fader and pre-insert. It's really a marketing blunder on mackie's part. Even the Firewire is pre-everyting..except the gain knob. It sucked....you have this sweet preamp, eq section, but you can only use the gain knob via direct outs. The preamps sound awesome, but I was having problems with channel four....it wasn't putting out a loud enough signal to match the right side.

So..........I returned it and I'm back to what I should have done from day one.......I got the Nord Lead 2X Rack.

I haven't got it yet, but should be here next week.

Now what should I get.........SUPERNOVA II, or JP-8080???

Trance ARPS and new age hip hop sound is what I'm going for.

Isnt that standard on alot of mixers?

Sometimes there is an option to change that, but you have to get inside the board and re-solder things. Most mixers I've used the Direct out's are post fader/EQ/inserts....

No offense, but you must be using some lame ass boards. Even the VLZ's had pre-eq and you're right.....most other boards do have a button to toggle for pre-eq or post-eq, etc.

There is an unsupported mod to make the direct outs pre-eq, or pre-fader....you can go to the Mackie forum to read more, but there are so many upset Onyx owners that we have to take matters into our own hands...hell I would have paid an extra $300-$400 for pre-eq, etc, but I'm willing to bet money that Mackie will release a ONYX 1640 as something like ONYX 1640P....to add a toggle switch for exactly what you mentioned..post/pre eq via direct outs. The sad thing is..........there is already a pre/post eq button on the board, but it's only for the main mix......?????????? It's ridiculous.......they were really close to having the perfect DAW mixer, but they'll figure it out.