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obliterations 10.10.2005 06:53 AM

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obliterations wrote:

Still having a problem with major key lag when using the USB for midi.

Can I still use the Virus Control and turn off the USB midi?


..Lag with the Virus do you mean? Or when controlling other synths?

If the problem is with the Virus, then just set the current part's Main Out to Out1 L+R, then all you have to do is remember to set it back again once you have recorded the part, otherwise it'll playback all wrong because of the delay compensation.
Thanks Ben,

The problem was with the Virus. Not with other synths or soft synths.
While using the Ti as a VST instrument with the audio set to usb there is major delay when playing keys or during midi palyback. I tried changing the main outs to "Out L+R" and that fixed the lag problem.

The Virus triggers right on time with the sequence. No lag.

However, that only seems to work while the actual track with the VST instrument is selected. The moment I switch to another midi track the lag kicks in again. I did try changing the main outs back to USB but the lag is still there.

Im using Logic 7 with a Mac G5 Dual 2 ghz.

Anyone else having problems with their Ti lagging during USB/midi palyback?

P.S. Everything works fine just using standard Midi.

nutekk 10.10.2005 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by obliterations

The problem was with the Virus. Not with other synths or soft synths.
While using the Ti as a VST instrument with the audio set to usb there is major delay when playing keys or during midi palyback. I tried changing the main outs to "Out L+R" and that fixed the lag problem.


so your saying that for you using the usb audio function isnt viable?
you have to use the analog outs?

technomonster 10.10.2005 09:02 AM

again this wont probrably help!!!!!!!!!!!, but does CUBASE have software monitoring, and are you software monitoring. because maybe you have adjusted the midi sequence a while back (before VIRUS TI purchase) to fit in with audio tracks in general in compliance with software monitoring.
That means put the midi sequences forward.

remember software monitoring is not real as far as what the real latency is.

this is probrably rubbish so i wont continue, but if think i might be on to simething i will write more about it.

what i wrote could be totally off the mark

ten 10.10.2005 09:19 AM

It is totally off the mark :)

ten

vls 11.10.2005 06:38 AM

same problem here.... 2000 samples too early...

Volker

melnikov_project 11.10.2005 07:24 AM

I think I have a tehnik for bouncin those audios and not getting ennoyd

that shit happens to me as well with some vst's sometimes its the cubase's
midi preferences.but most of the time its the plug it self demending this latency to be more acurate.but shit we dont need to know it all we wont is to export and use..
so what i do i got my sleft a sound card that supports direct wire as a second audio card [main is creamware] it called prodigy 192
ok so what it so is simple it connects all inputs and outputs from any audio source in a pc and it can be recorded live without bouncin and other shit hell as this 1...
it like u solo midi and audio hit record and it will recoord ha nice a..
so after it beenn recorded i just cut thos silence parts od the latency shit..
and move it to the right spot..
for me its the most convinient way to do it as well for many other's
i hope its helped.

ten 11.10.2005 07:34 AM

Yea, slight overkill for what we are trying to do :)

ten

obliterations 11.10.2005 08:02 AM

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so your saying that for you using the usb audio function isnt viable?
you have to use the analog outs?
Yes, I am also saying that USB as a midi connection has problems too.

I have no problem switching to USB to stream the audio onto Hard Disk, adjusting the start time of the sample, and then switching back to regular old midi. Only takes a second, and its not as complicated as it might seem.

So in the end the USB is still very useful...

BTW when using the Ti as a sound device I had the same early recording problem ten has. I was able to get the start times close by adjusting the I/O buffer and Recording Delay setting in Logic. After all that I decided it was too much trouble. I went back to just using my Tascam.

MADSTATION 15.10.2005 05:49 PM

Possible early midi recording fix:
If you are using Cubase SX3.1(it might be in earlier versions as well):
- Preferences
- VST
- Adjust the Delay Compensation Treshold(for recording).

ten 15.10.2005 06:36 PM

Yea that works, but you have to change it back when using other external synths other than the TI.....pain in the arse :)

ten


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