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jasedee 31.10.2004 08:05 AM

If you were going to buy a synth it would be a......
 
Just wandering,

If you could start again, and had the chance of buying your first synth, analogue or digital, hardware/software, romplers included....

Which one would you get, limited to say, around US$2000???

Im trying to help out a friend who is in the position of buying his very first VA, or main synth, and he is a little confused as to what he should buy, whether he should buy new, second hand, VSTi or outboard......

Thanks for your input! :)

Hollowcell 31.10.2004 08:15 AM

V-Synth!

Although I don't have one myself and shouldn't really back it too hard, I will stick by my choice. Good key action, heaps of real time controllers, built in sampler with Variphrase, Full VA section (but the VA seems to get improvements every OS update - indicating that it's not so flash) and it works well as an editable rompler.

jasedee 31.10.2004 08:22 AM

Thanks for the reply HC!

I forgot to add my vote :?

Alesis Andromeda!!!!!!! Im sure I could pick one up S/H off eBay..

Juho L 31.10.2004 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Hollowcell
V-Synth!

Same here.

Tomer=Trance 31.10.2004 10:05 AM

alesis a6+sherman filter bank 2
oh wait you said 2k
:oops:

jasedee 31.10.2004 10:14 AM

well......I guess we can also vote for our ultimate synth too, regardless of price.

Gosh, I have just re-watched the V-Synth demo video. That thing is fcking AMAZING!!!!!!!!

Edit: Geez...seems the V-Synth has alot of bugs and issues from users. Many unhappy customers! Thinking twice about it's credibility now

Tomer=Trance 31.10.2004 12:40 PM

i think its price is still rather high right now.
gone take another year or so for a 20-30 % price drop.

Juho L 01.11.2004 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jasedee
Gosh, I have just re-watched the V-Synth demo video.

So did I and now I have a GAS.

Hollowcell 01.11.2004 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasedee
well......I guess we can also vote for our ultimate synth too, regardless of price.

Gosh, I have just re-watched the V-Synth demo video. That thing is fcking AMAZING!!!!!!!!

Edit: Geez...seems the V-Synth has alot of bugs and issues from users. Many unhappy customers! Thinking twice about it's credibility now

I have read about this thing on many dedicated forums, plus reading many independant reviews and it seems the bugs people are having trouble are because they don't seem to know what they are doing with it. It has some drawbacks, but for everything else it can do - I want it bad!!!

tranzash 01.11.2004 01:02 AM

v-synth
 
Hey guys, how is reaktor's new fast fx ensemble (elecvol2.0) features comparing to this V-synth effects? This ensemble could freeze audio, slice, gate, filter,zzzz etc. :wink:

About the synth that i will recommend is jup8 :)

Hollowcell 01.11.2004 01:41 AM

Re: v-synth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tranzash
Hey guys, how is reaktor's new fast fx ensemble (elecvol2.0) features comparing to this V-synth effects? This ensemble could freeze audio, slice, gate, filter,zzzz etc. :wink:

About the synth that i will recommend is jup8 :)

That's interesting for sure. Can it alter formant, pitch and time in "realtime" too? Mmmm, have to read up I reckon.

The V-synth has a few other tricks too though - Cosm filters/FX, appegiator which is fully programmable that can also hold CC data, legato style harmonization and many controls. I think as a controller synth it would be amazing.

Hhehe, I'm sounding like an ad or something.

EDIT: Forgot to say. The andromeda is an amzing synth too, but for the money I'd rather buy vintage stuff. The Andromeda is an icing on the cake type of synth (for those with heaps of cash). It does what it does well, but it doesn't do anything new.

jasedee 01.11.2004 03:22 AM

Re: v-synth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollowcell
The andromeda is an amzing synth too, but for the money I'd rather buy vintage stuff.

So you would maybe buy a Juno 106 before an andromeda?

Hollowcell 01.11.2004 05:45 AM

Well.....I can get a Juno106 here in Japan for around $180 to $250 ausi, so yep, I'd buy a 106 over an Andromenda. If I could get an Andromeda for $200 ausi though, that'd be a different story. :D

saba 01.11.2004 08:16 AM

If waldorf was around, an XTk, followed by a Pulse, and then a Q.
________
Lamborghini concept s specifications

jasedee 01.11.2004 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by saba
If waldorf was around, an XTk, followed by a Pulse, and then a Q.

Seems we have a Waldorf fan here!

Are they really that good? I have never had the pleasure of playing one, but it's been on my wish list for some time.....simply from it's reputation

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Originally Posted by Hollowcell
Juno 106 for AUD$180-250...

8O when are you coming back for holidays??? *hint hint*

Juho L 01.11.2004 10:32 AM

About that V-synth: How well does it do basic sampling? All the demos present weird FX and sample manipulation, but not clean sounds at all.

I was thinking of getting V-synth mainly for pads, FX, etc, but also for band playing. Is it any good for sampling Hammond, piano, Rhodes, etc (ie. does it even do multisamples?)?

Hollowcell 01.11.2004 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jase
when are you coming back for holidays??? *hint hint*

Not for a while by the looks. Sorry about that. :D

Quote:

About that V-synth: How well does it do basic sampling? All the demos present weird FX and sample manipulation, but not clean sounds at all.

I was thinking of getting V-synth mainly for pads, FX, etc, but also for band playing. Is it any good for sampling Hammond, piano, Rhodes, etc (ie. does it even do multisamples?)?
Ahhh, the multi-sample question. It doesn't do multisampling well at all apparantly. Using variphrase it's fine for a couple of octaves, but over that there is difficulty. I've read of people layering performances to compansate for this though. Use variphrase for a few octaves and then sample in a higher octave and layer it as a different performance.
In a way that's better than using a real sampler anyways, but in other ways it wouldn't be.

Most people I've heard that are using it properly, clear the memory and sample. Everybody is down on those presets.

Another cool trick for the V-synth.

EDIT: Just say you wanna use it to filter an external signal in a new way....create a patch which has a different filter for each octave zone of the keyboard, then program the appegiator to play a note out of each zone in tempo - play your external source and then have the sound switching between many filters rapidly in time with the music. Nice!! Add synced LFOs controling FX to this and just think.......

Blank 02.11.2004 06:28 AM

if I had 2k i would add it to the money i have saved and by a 93 turbo Mr2...oh wait...thats not a synth...I would buy a few small synths...OB12, Jp8080, pulse, polymorph...or some Hr824's i could use some monitors...my ears are dying from headphones...

peace
Blank

jasedee 02.11.2004 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Blank
or some Hr824's i could use some monitors...my ears are dying from headphones...

HEY......who said anything about monitors :x J/K :)

A good pair of monitors is IMO absolutely essential. Mixing on HP sounds so un-natural to me, I cant stand it!

Also essential are good DA converters, so you are monitoring your DAW at a high level of quality (yes, I know, AD is very important too)

Anyways....back to synths! No votes for Nord, Korg....Novation????

Juho L 02.11.2004 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jasedee
Korg....

Hoho. Casio?

By the way what kind of music does your friend make?

jasedee 02.11.2004 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Juho L
Hoho. Casio?

Not even one of those crazy mangled Circuit benders casios??????

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juho L
By the way what kind of music does your friend make?

Well.....he has just got a G5/Digi 002, and also bought a Novation A-Station, without realising it was only mono-timbral...which is why he is on the hunt for a nice, "Phat" sounding synth, probably VA, maybe rompler???? Maybe softsynth.........

He hasnt really started making tunes yet but Im sure it will be electronica based.....as well as recording bands etc...

P.S just incase you havent heard of these guys, there is the link below:

Circuit benders website

Hollowcell 02.11.2004 11:15 PM

Nup, no Nord, Access, Novation, Alesis or anything else that's VA/Analogue only. Only because it's a first synth. Controllers and versitility are the way to go I rekon. Once he starts really making the type of music he wants to make, then he can choose the right tone of VA that suits.

Juho L 02.11.2004 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollowcell
Nup, no Nord, Access, Novation, Alesis or anything else that's VA/Analogue only. Only because it's a first synth. Controllers and versitility are the way to go I rekon. Once he starts really making the type of music he wants to make, then he can choose the right tone of VA that suits.

Yup. A workstation would be the best option. Motif ES or Fantom-X.

Tomer=Trance 03.11.2004 04:12 AM

how exacly circuit-bending is created?
modified synth/drum machines?
i didnt realy understand how thos crazy tones are produced
some crazy randometions there
i love it! :D

DIGITAL SCREAMS 06.11.2004 12:22 AM

Well I sold my Virus KC partly because I desperately needed the money whilst at uni....and partly 'cos I got a little pissed off with it (You should see my ranting and raving on GAS and Darksnous lol). However, im currently saving alot of money to buy the next Virus synth...which by the sounds of it...will be released sometime next year.

*Oh and btw hi all....its been along time hehe

DS

DIGITAL SCREAMS 06.11.2004 01:24 AM

Hmmmm....maybe this synth. It looks good and its got some nice user friendly controls on it.



DS

DIGITAL SCREAMS 06.11.2004 01:27 AM



DS

jasedee 06.11.2004 06:10 AM

Nice to have you back with us DS :)

Sold your Virus? Blasphemy!!!!! hehehe ;)

That synth looks pretty crazy...

Tomer=Trance 06.11.2004 08:05 AM

lol you know its a fake rigtht? :wink:
http://hem.passagen.se/sequence/baue...sage/sage.html

http://hem.passagen.se/sequence/baue...e/Creation.jpg :lol:

Hollowcell 06.11.2004 09:18 AM

Yep that was one of the classier fakes around. Something to aspire to I guess - as a budding hoax creator. Hehehe.

Good to see you back DS. I've seen you pop up on messenger every now and again, but I know your busy with Uni so I didn't say much.

jasedee 06.11.2004 09:56 AM

Actually, it is not a fake. I have the 'sage' synthesiser sitting on my desk, alongside the Indigo 3, and the new apache Virus!!!!! ;)

Tomer=Trance 06.11.2004 12:37 PM

you must be one of the few lucky people who got to be beta testers :)

DIGITAL SCREAMS 06.11.2004 06:15 PM

Here it is..... The Virus TI



DS

Hollowcell 06.11.2004 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jasedee
Actually, it is not a fake. I have the 'sage' synthesiser sitting on my desk, alongside the Indigo 3, and the new apache Virus!!!!! ;)

Hhehehe! :lol:

@ DS - :wink:


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