Another one bites the dust
 

That probably won't sell(i assume by the title you mean that it is going to bite the dust, that it's not going to sell:P) Thats his/her/your own fault when setting the starting price so high!

I mean another Ti Dies from someones DAW/Synth collection cause of so many issues

You know it, I get a big laugh seeing all the TI's on e-bay!

I guess tha access guys surely have gotten the message by now.

they need to take these fuckers off the market, and sort it out.

too many people have been burnt.....


namshub

HOW ABOUT A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT???
 

I mean.. sh!t if their selling a bunk a$$ product then they eaither need to recall or something.. So far I have not had any issues besides the already known OS bugs.. But I guess we'll see

I purchased a TI keyboard, and while I fucked myself for a week (like a 15 year old) over how great it sounded (boy does it sound great) The "bugs" and lack of OS 1.1 made my intuition tell me that this was not a mature product, so I returned it for a virus C on e-bay (I'm lovin it).....I realy realy wanted to own the TI, but all the skeletons in my closet (roland mc 505, emu extreme lead, Jv1080.......)made me stop and pause before I add to that collection....

i belive shipment of the TI is corrently stoped dou to the fact that they are trying to fix the F***** machine.
there are roumers of hardware problems which are cousing some issues.

Who knows why some TI's are on Ebay and why some are on Turnkey's B-stock list....its all speculation :!: How you interpret things depends on your state of mind....

But one thing is for sure.....Access, in my opinion should consider dropping the TI concept. Hardware synth = hardware synth and thats the way its been for 40 years and there is no harm in conceeding that that is the way it should remain. When the Virus C came out and the marketing drive went on and on...I started to suspect Access were becoming over confident....almost arrogant. Put it this way.....the original Minimoog was a nice synth at the time....but it did not gain 'legendary' status until sometime after production ceased. When the Virus C came out 'people' were already talking of its filters as legendary blah blah blah......a bit premature in my book.

The possible reality is this > Access have had probably 2 years now to get the Ti and it aint happening. It will take a miracle to get it working for everyone....in fact....we all know that will probably never be the case. I should imagine sales of TI's is a bit light....and who the hell is going to have the confidence to buy into the Ti MKII concept? I was considering this.....maybe I still will....but for this kind of money I can buy real analog

DS

That's pandering to a modern market, DS. You might still be stuck in the 80's bubble, but the rest of the world has moved on. Like you, though, I wouldn't be so fussed about the TI's usb-audio aspect either - I think a professional soundcard should be a professional soundcard, and a pro synth a pro synth, and a pro mixer a pro mixer, but when you get the jack-of-all-trades there are compromises and manufacturers often tend to take the foot off the pedal in the areas they previously excelled at as a direct trade-off. As good as shooting themselves in the foot.
Ie. in this case, the bugs regarding the TI aspect here are forcing them to hold off the release of their new functionality updates for the one thing they are famed for - the sound engine.

I remember seeing the marketing for the Ti, with gimmicks like "more of the filters that you know and love!" etc.. They might as well have put "yeah! go get 'em, DJ Cool!!!!"

I was definately in the market for any "mk2", but admit now that I will be heavily assessing it before ever thinking about purchasing it. Given that many official reviews were off the mark this time, I would definately hold off until user-reviews trickled out.

...But we're jumping the gun. I think Access might as well hang themselves if they abandoned the Ti mk1 as the userbase would be reeling. I genuinely hope it's in their power to fix the mk1 as much as they can hope to, and to not bite off more they can chew in any such mk2.

here here!!!!

For that kind of money you could buy 3 or 4 vintage analogues....

You nailed it! :wink: :wink: :wink:

I have to admit, I tend to use the VC bit simply because it is such a nice patch editor and library tool and of course total recall type function. But I would rather it worked without having to sacrifice regular hardware synth functionality (ie loosing the hardware midi ports which for me is a real killer).

sure i think U can have a few teething problems with the TI part of the virus, but when even turning the fucker on is drama, it running as a normal midi (Virus c) synth is a drama and it generally being an utter frustrating piece of crap. well its just not on.

namshub

droping? after spending tons of money and time in development?
i think not.... no sane company will do such a thing,even if they wanted im sure its financialy imposibble.

Well, hmmm, I am running my Ti Polar as a "normal midi synth" and there's not much drama, nor is it "an utter frustrating piece of crap."

Prior to the 1.0.9 hotfix, I'd been experiencing the dreaded "satan saw" crash on a rather regular basis in sequencer and multi modes. This would typically only occur while changing patches on parts during MIDI playback. Since the hotfix, however, the satan saw has virtually disappeared, and crashes have been few and far between.

namshub, do you actually own a Ti?

Well, hmmm, I am running my Ti Polar as a "normal midi synth" and there's not much drama, nor is it "an utter frustrating piece of crap."

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Are you going to make the DP 5 jump? I realy wish there could be a DP 4.65 for intell, I realy want to get tthe intell boost, but all those soft synths they added make me nervous about cpu, etc.....and I hear they don't sound great anyways.

so how many channels of midi are U using? more than 2? we were using 4 and it was very unreliable. it crashes continually, notes get stuck, totally random weird shit - like every patch changing at the twist of a knob, totally irrational stuff... 4 channels of midi dood - 4!!!

and turning the thing on is a drama too - if it could be arsed to boot.

We are using one in our band studio. and we pretty much couldnt be bothered to turn it on anymore to save ourselves the frustration.

we have many more far more reliable synths....

namshub

Up to 16, with perhaps four or five playing at any given time.

Sounds like perhaps you got a defective unit.

At some point I am sure I will. I would not call myself a DP "power user," and I haven't read anything that made me want to buy the upgrade immediately. 4.61 is working just fine and does all I need it to do (nor am I interested in the softsynths).