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marc 23.07.2009 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paprika (Post 292075)
Someone may also notice that VC GUI in 3.04 is much slower, when you tweak knobs in particular. Now I'm even more certain about that with 3.03 on a board.

on which platform/sequencer etc. ?

thanks, marc

Paprika 23.07.2009 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marc (Post 292076)
on which platform/sequencer etc. ?

thanks, marc

That was on latest FL Studio.

marc 23.07.2009 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paprika (Post 292077)
That was on latest FL Studio.

details please :)

marc

Paprika 23.07.2009 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marc (Post 292079)
details please :)

marc

FL Studio 8.0.2, XP SP2. VC was like on very low frame rate. I don't want to install 3.04 again, but I took a few videos with 3.03 now. We can compare with future release later.

Timo 24.07.2009 11:56 AM

Posts removed, let's stay on topic. TI OS v3.0.4.00...

(Telson, I haven't got time for clearing up your mess. Last warning.)

djones 24.07.2009 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paprika (Post 292073)
Good to know. I never install beta again before it's well tested here :) Back to 3.03..

Same problem occuring while dialing the 'decay' button in the amp envelope, with the 'release' button going along.

cl516 24.07.2009 04:50 PM

I've installed 3.0.4 now, does anyone know if it still 'sneezes'?

I didn't even bother turning my speakers on, I just keep trying to change patches and wait for a crash like on the 3.0.3.

I always use it as a standalone machine, never with Virus Control.

3.0.3 was frustrating because only in the past week or so did it start crashing. Just straight up turn-machine-on, suddenly crash. No apparent reason.
Anyone getting this on 3.0.4? I ask because I want to protect my eardrums. The last zap I got was really really bad, I got a headache.

starcorp 24.07.2009 11:20 PM

3.04 gives me big cpu spikes and crackle.
i am step back to 3.03.

cubase 5.01, vista 32, i7

jan

soulidstate 25.07.2009 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cl516 (Post 292104)
I've installed 3.0.4 now, does anyone know if it still 'sneezes'?

When I first installed 3.0.4 I thought it was the final solution but after 2 days,my hope turned into frustration.Yes it still sneezes in 3.0.4.

Sonis 28.07.2009 06:28 AM

For everyone who is interested the replacement for my TI2 desktop got here today and it's been running all day without crashing. It's like I just bought the virus all over again. Been using it from about 4:30pm to now (11:30pm) and it's been flawless aside from a couple slip ups in the arp timing which resolved themselves by stopping and starting playback of course.

So it definitely was a problem with the unit itself.

Mr Ben 28.07.2009 10:46 AM

Nice one Sonis

Glad its all been sorted for you

Have fun

As far as 3.0.4 goes i for one am not gonna update.
3.0.3 is ok here i sometimes get a few timing issues but i just restart from the beginning of the tune and all is well.:grin:

telson 28.07.2009 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timo (Post 292100)
Posts removed, let's stay on topic. TI OS v3.0.4.00...

(Telson, I haven't got time for clearing up your mess. Last warning.)

άντε και γαμήσου ρε μαλάκα

Edit: Likewise. Have fun elsewhere.
User got the boot for this post.

Let's continue with the original topic...

DiScO 28.07.2009 08:41 PM

Working ok here in Logic 9 so far. A few sync issues but no 'sneeze' so far. Not been running it for long though. Any chance the TI can take advantage of some of my unused cpu power? Just like SSL have done with Duende?

Hollowcell 29.07.2009 12:10 AM

Great news Sonis!

Doc Jones 29.07.2009 12:49 AM

good deal Sonis!

diy 29.07.2009 01:44 AM

As a greek,I have to admit that people like telson make me feel ashamed of my origin.I'm fed up with all these "keyboard warriors". Not intented to be off topic but these smartasses are the reason why I don't post in greek music tech forums. They know everything and they produce nothing except mess...sorry again for the off topic :)

tranqui 29.07.2009 11:57 AM

let's not get worked up over a guy who's overstepped the boundaries. he's gone, it's done.

ontopic: new beta works fine with ableton 8.0.4; the only little problem I am still facing is that when playing live and switching programs, VC says "out of sync - press stop and play to resolve". it stays in sync though.

thomas 29.07.2009 02:40 PM

Ok, I'm gonna try this beta.
Version 3.0.3 keeps messing up my patches.
I can save them in VC but they sound different
- tape delay doesn't always sound as is set in the patch
- sometimes a filter parameter get randomised

solconnection 29.07.2009 05:44 PM

This latest beta isn't working for me either :( Im on a macbook pro, osx and logic 8 with a motu ultralite.

Ive had a TI since the early days and it's worked like a charm pretty much the whole time.

unfortunately since all the v3.x os updates it has become a lemon with bad syncing/timing/arp issues...some synth lines will start playing off time or just stop outputting while others seem to play ok. it also emits a strange buzz (which sounds like the init patch) every now and then, even when not receiving any midi (ie. the VC plugin is loaded in my project but im not using it) and i need to hit panic on the TI hardware. I also get the "out of sync - press stop and play to resolve" message ALOT, even on an empty project with just one or two channels of TI.

reverting back to trusty old 2.75...think ill wait quite a while to try OS3 (which is a shame as it's got lots of nice new features)

-Dan

solconnection 29.07.2009 07:42 PM

hmmm, reverted back to 2.75 and still getting issues, even though they didn't start until i installed 3.x they seem to be persisting on revert. Maybe 3.x changed some settings? maybe i could get 3.x to work properly with some further tweeking.

-Dan

Kobayashi 30.07.2009 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by solconnection (Post 292215)
hmmm, reverted back to 2.75 and still getting issues, even though they didn't start until i installed 3.x they seem to be persisting on revert. Maybe 3.x changed some settings? maybe i could get 3.x to work properly with some further tweeking.

-Dan

What issues specifically? Details holmes, details.

Werner schijvenaars 30.07.2009 07:20 PM

Hel there
 
I'm new at this forum so hello everybody.
It look like i had te read this forum a little earlier.


i bought an virus TI2 resent and up to now it seems an very bad investment.
with os 3.03 i did suffer the sneezing problem everybody explains. but only ones or twice a day.

so i did try the new 3.04 os to see if this would solve this.

Wel now it is hopeless, my cubase is crashing al the time
Cubase is saying an serious error occurred, and then it closes.

it does this every 5 min making it completely useless.

so i tried to go back to 3.03 by installing the 3.03 software from the Access website, unfortunately it makes no difference at all.

I even completely re installation of my system from scratch
with only cubase and virus, it still is crashing.

starting the Virus controll center sometimes give blue screens,
In the controll center it say's OS 3.03
but when it is updating the virus the screen on the virus says Update mode 3.04

so it looks like there is still some 3.04 in the virus, is there an special procedure for going back to 3.03.

at this moment i would be very happy with the situation it was before.

anyone experience with downgrading the OS ??

Regards

Werner

Doc Jones 30.07.2009 08:58 PM

Hi Werner, welcome to the forum. Bummer you are having so many problems. Can you post a little more info about your daw's configuration - (eg OS, 32 v 64 bit, service pack level, sound card etc.)

also, I may be able to debug your dump file (created with your computer blue screened - assuming it is a windows machine). PM your email address and I'll give you mine to email over the dump file.

gnome 30.07.2009 09:56 PM

fixes nothing........nothing.Still the ti cant run in multi mode properly without its audio data becoming corrupt when you try and use more than the cpu can handle .Why cant they build in a failsafe mechanism .

gnome 30.07.2009 09:57 PM

werner , 100's of people have ahd these issues, its a virus ti and thats what they do , honestly i give up on mine , its a substandard faulty synth which access know has design issues , hardware problems and bad build quality .




Quote:

Originally Posted by Werner schijvenaars (Post 292249)
i bought an virus TI2 resent and up to now it seems an very bad investment.
with os 3.03 i did suffer the sneezing problem everybody explains. but only ones or twice a day.

so i did try the new 3.04 os to see if this would solve this.

Wel now it is hopeless, my cubase is crashing al the time
Cubase is saying an serious error occurred, and then it closes.

it does this every 5 min making it completely useless.

so i tried to go back to 3.03 by installing the 3.03 software from the Access website, unfortunately it makes no difference at all.

I even completely re installation of my system from scratch
with only cubase and virus, it still is crashing.

starting the Virus controll center sometimes give blue screens,
In the controll center it say's OS 3.03
but when it is updating the virus the screen on the virus says Update mode 3.04

so it looks like there is still some 3.04 in the virus, is there an special procedure for going back to 3.03.

at this moment i would be very happy with the situation it was before.

anyone experience with downgrading the OS ??

Regards

Werner


gnome 30.07.2009 10:00 PM

latest os 3.04 for me is no different from 2.75 , 3.03 etc etc etc etc etc .......all make no difference.

In multi mode with no usb . pc control and using headphones i still can only run 4 parts max before it glitches and pops and about 15 midi notes.Multi mode has a design flaw access wont admit.

soulidstate 31.07.2009 12:51 AM

With 3.0.4 VC plug in in Acid pro is unstable. It hang during VC start up.If I cancel it and restart the VC again, it cannot see the TI anymore. Well, it seems
3.0.4 is more problematic than the previous 3+ OS. where I don't experience this problem.

lukas412 31.07.2009 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soulidstate (Post 292269)
With 3.0.4 VC plug in in Acid pro is unstable. It hang during VC start up.If I cancel it and restart the VC again, it cannot see the TI anymore. Well, it seems
3.0.4 is more problematic than the previous 3+ OS. where I don't experience this problem.

Is acid even a supported host?

Werner schijvenaars 31.07.2009 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doc Jones (Post 292254)
Hi Werner, welcome to the forum. Bummer you are having so many problems. Can you post a little more info about your daw's configuration - (eg OS, 32 v 64 bit, service pack level, sound card etc.)

also, I may be able to debug your dump file (created with your computer blue screened - assuming it is a windows machine). PM your email address and I'll give you mine to email over the dump file.


Hello,

2 doc Jones these are mine setup configurations i send jou an PM.
Intel Core i7 920 - Motu HD192 - Uad2Quad - Powercore mkII
Windows XP 32 SP3 - Steinberg Cubase 5.01 - Midex 8


But anyone experienced with goeing back to 3.03,
when i load Virus control the display on the virus keeps saying "Update mode 3.04"
that looks strange to me becouse i already installed 3.03 (multiple times).

Thanks

HUEY 31.07.2009 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Werner schijvenaars (Post 292249)
but when it is updating the virus the screen on the virus says Update mode 3.04

so it looks like there is still some 3.04 in the virus, is there an special procedure for going back to 3.03.

at this moment i would be very happy with the situation it was before.

anyone experience with downgrading the OS ??

Regards

Werner


My procedure for downgrading the OS: (It always worked for me)
*Do a good de-installation of all software and drivers (Via installed software in Windows)
*Force the Virus Ti in update mode (Holding down the exit button while powering up)
*Run the "older" software-installer, in this case 3.0.3
*After downgrading reset your virus!! Remove the power cabel for 30 sec. Hold down the "ARP-edit" button a few secconds while powering up

That's it

Hopefully it works for you

best r

h4nc0 31.07.2009 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Werner schijvenaars (Post 292278)
Hello,

2 doc Jones these are mine setup configurations i send jou an PM.
Intel Core i7 920 - Motu HD192 - Uad2Quad - Powercore mkII
Windows XP 32 SP3 - Steinberg Cubase 5.01 - Midex 8


But anyone experienced with goeing back to 3.03,
when i load Virus control the display on the virus keeps saying "Update mode 3.04"
that looks strange to me becouse i already installed 3.03 (multiple times).

Thanks


There's Virus Control.dll in C:\Program Files\Access Music\Virus TI\Common which stays at 3.0.4 even if you install 3.0.3. Just delete the whole folder and reinstall.

Chicago 01.08.2009 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnome (Post 292259)
werner , 100's of people have ahd these issues, its a virus ti and thats what they do , honestly i give up on mine , its a substandard faulty synth which access know has design issues , hardware problems and bad build quality .

Now you are just talking absolute nonsense, gnome.

1. You have no idea how many people are having issues and how many are not, you pulled this number out of thin air.

2. There is nothing "substandard" about any Virus. Period. If you think the build quality is "bad", I am assuming you are new to the synth game, and again, are pulling this out of thin air.

3. Since you are in absolutely no position to comment on "hardware problems" or "design issues", this is potentially slanderous as you are making this up.

4. Could there be some bugs with 3.0.4? Sure, and Access will fix them surely. But looking at some of your statements, it looks to me like you did not even open the user manual, and have a very limited understanding of how the Virus works.

Sorry man, someone had to check you. Your post does not speak for all of us at all. I have done many projects with the TI, and the TI was a vital part of each.

soulidstate 01.08.2009 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lukas412 (Post 292271)
Is acid even a supported host?

I used Acid 6 to launch the VC where I can edit programs,etc. As I have mentioned in my post, I didn't have any problem doing this using earlier OS versions.

Warren_UK 01.08.2009 10:21 AM

When are we going to get a new beta release? Its been ages since the last one.

h4nc0 03.08.2009 01:02 PM

Been testing Win 7 and confirmed slow GUI response with Live 8.0.5b7. Could this be Aero related? On XP, GUI response was normal.

Timo 03.08.2009 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h4nc0 (Post 292389)
Been testing Win 7 and confirmed slow GUI response with Live 8.0.5b7. Could this be Aero related? On XP, GUI response was normal.

I don't think Win7 is supported yet. That said, Win7 uses Vista drivers, so whatever works on Vista should with Win7.

Are your GPU drivers fully supported/updated with Win7? I know nVidia already supply Win7 certified (fully native) GPU drivers for their graphics cards.

h4nc0 04.08.2009 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timo (Post 292394)
I don't think Win7 is supported yet. That said, Win7 uses Vista drivers, so whatever works on Vista should with Win7.

Are your GPU drivers fully supported/updated with Win7? I know nVidia already supply Win7 certified (fully native) GPU drivers for their graphics cards.


Yes. Updated with latest Nvidia driver. GUI slowdown issue only occurs when Virus Control is showing on screen. Other plugins work fine.

Doc Jones 04.08.2009 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h4nc0 (Post 292389)
Been testing Win 7 and confirmed slow GUI response with Live 8.0.5b7. Could this be Aero related? On XP, GUI response was normal.

I can confirm this. Same issue here, even when running live in compatibility mode.

drakeblood 05.08.2009 01:46 PM

moving from 3.0.3 to 3.0.4 got the following issues in my lovely unsupported Reaper3.x

1) ALWAYS: making an automation on a midiCC (modwhell in my case) gets the VC "out of sync error" and the virus in frenzy with audio instantly slowing down until burst+crash (the crash happens after 2-3 minutes of having it running in that "slowmode" condition). Disabling the automation all goes back working (after stop/play, of course).
2) sometimes (quite often, 60% chances): after you load the VC it will tell you that it's connected to the Virus but it isnt. The Virus stay in Single/Standalone mode (perfectly working, but cant control it by the VC in this condition). After this issue only hard-reset would allow me to reconnect VC to the Virus.
3) sometimes, while playing, all leds goes dead for half-second but there is no VC disconnection or any other counterside (not even audio clicks). This never happened to me with 3.0.3

For reference about the 1st issue, the exact same project was the one making the virus crash with the burst. The fact is that the chances to crash for each play was moderate, like 10-20% chances. With 3.0.4 instead the issue of slowdown+burst+crash happens ALWAYS.

1st note: yes, i did hard reset after 3.0.4 install.
2nd note: no, dont spam me about "your host is not supported, you must die on the stake", i know is not supported but i'm happy like that because 3.0.3 works WAY better on Reaper than on Cubase.

Cheers everyone ^^

zeno 05.08.2009 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doc Jones (Post 292411)
I can confirm this. Same issue here, even when running live in compatibility mode.

I have this same problem in WIN 7 and VISTA. I'm using XP now and it's all fine.

I'm using a ATI Raedon 2600 card. Drivers fully updated.


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