Tutorial: How to do MIDI dumps
 

No more weekly "how to dump" questions.

1. Select a track you wish the dump to be recorded on from your sequencer.
2. Check that your sequencer isn't filtering SysEx.
3. Go to control menu -> MIDI Dump.
4. Select what you want to dump.
5. Start recording from the sequencer.
6. Hit store.

can you please tell how tu load patches from a sequencer into the virus? The manual aint mutch help here.

thanx

How to load MIDI dumps:

1. Check that you don't have SysEx filter on.
2. Press play.

it works now,,, but how can i choose in wich bank the patches are loaded??

Control menu -> MIDI dump section -> Force to bank...

I really dont think many people like to read manuals.......I too was one of those people, a long, long time ago. One day, when I was having a bit of a problem, I did the unthinkable.......I pulled out the manual from the depths of my "books and junk" box, and found the answer to my troubles!

Manuals......Read them, you never know what they may tell you

:)

i do read manuals, but sometimes certaint aspects arent elaborated on enough to work with.

I couldnt find anything in the manual on how to load patches to certain banks.

Thats quite true.....

Hope you sorted everything out.....

Cheers,

Jase

I must be quite strange then because I really like reading manuals!!

Yes....you are strange! ;) But we still love ya.... :)

I also like to read manuals. Why? Because that way I learn everything about the synth.

Re: Tutorial: How to do MIDI dumps
 

So if my song is 8 minutes do I leave to record for the whole 8 minutes?

No. this is a MIDI Dump not a recording of the virus' audio. It dumps all the data from the virus into your sequencer so you can save the sounds from the virus.

So I just record till the dump has finished?

Exactly and it won't take long. Most of my dumps are finished almost a second after I hit the store button.

Ok so I did all that and now Im working on new song with different sounds in multi single mode. But now when I want my old song back I load my sequencer but it now just plays sounds from new song arranged into old song. Im obviously not saving it correctly, I have been trying for two weeks to figure this out and I still dont get what Im doing wrong. Im following the steps that everyone is telling me but perhaps Im not doing correctly or something.

I am working with an akai mpc2000xl sequencer. When Ive finished my songA which Ive created with the virus indigo11 in multi single mode using 16 parts ,I want to save all the sounds exactly as they are then work on a new songB with different sounds once again in multi single mode using a different 16 parts.
So what I want to know is firstly how to store everthing exactly the way it is in the virus for songA then how to recall it if I want to work on the songA again later. I have done everything people are telling me and it does not happen. I just get the same songA arrangement but it plays the sounds from the current multi single the new songB, of which the part names and numbers are showing on screen as this was the last thing I did.
Do I need to dial the 16 parts from songA back in manually later if I want to use? This means I would have to remember or write down the numbers so surely this is not the way to do it.
When I press store in multi mode, what does this actually store and where? My understanding is that it stores the 16parts Im using in multi single in the order in which they are arranged. So how do I recall that later?
If I press store in multi single mode I understand that Im storing a single sound of which I may have changed some relevant parameters and effects etc. So its not much different to single mode? I lose whatever was in its place by overwriting it. Is this correct?
This seems impractical. Why is there not an empty memory bank to store stuff? Can I save original sound somehow before changes?

One Multi patch per song mate.....you work on a new song, you create a new multi, you wanna go back to your old song, you navigate to your old multi. I name them (Multi patches) the name of my song Im working on

But theres only sixteen of them, what do you do when they are all used?
I thought the whole idea of doing an arrangement dump was that it frees up the same multi to use for another song if need be and then to restore it later if need be? Wait a minute , Im getting too many different viewpoints here, does anyone actually really know what they are talking about round here? Can I please get some 'real' help?

Stay in Multi Mode (NOT Multi-Single)

Only go into Multi-single when you want to edit/change patches within the multi.

There should be space for 128 Multi patches I believe. Each of these has access to 16 parts (which relate to 16 different MIDI channels)

So with each song you make, you choose (and name) a different multi.

Hope that helps a bit.....

I just looked and your right there are 128, so you reckon I just leave it the way it is and when I wanna rework the song I go back and dial up the multi? Ok , I wish someone told me this before, it explains alot. Except what to do when all 128 are full? I was under the impression that I store every thing in my sequencer and then when I reload the song that the multi and its parts are also restored but by what you are saying, it actually doesnt go anywhere, it stays in the virus. Perhaps Im just dumping the relevant parameter changes and effects?? Anyways at least Im not so worried now. Thanks for your help, will email you.

Exactly Ben, that's why the dumps are so small.

I used to do all that dumping stuff....but I just got bored. Alot easier just to dial up the relevant multi when you need it....and I dont think you will run out of multi patches anytime soon. Cross that bridge when you get there...

Glad you are sorting it out mate......

If the multi programs contain addresses of singles(not actual sounds) and I do an arrangement dump then are the addresses dumped aswell and if so shouldnt the addresses be loaded back to the multi when I play sequencer because that is not happening for me?

SysEx filter? Where..? On the synth or in cubase?

Cubase.

How do I check if it is filtered or not? :?


:noob: :P

hey guys, ive done everything that this forum and the manual says but i still cant dump a bank from my virus into cubase. i unchecked the filtering in sysex but left it ticked going through lke cubase says.

when i press dump on my virus and record on cubase my sound card is indicating that midi is getting sent to the midi in 1 slot but cubase wont recognise it?!?! wtf.

anyone else had this problem......really want to load new sounds on but want to save the 2 banks on there first though.

thanks for any help.

josh

Can you give us some specs... ie what MIDI interface, Windoze or Mac etc

Im using cubaseSX3 on windowsXP platform.

In the last week ive noticed cubase getting more unstable with any projects with midi in them, weird.

Can you be more specific? I currently use midi quite a bit in SX 3.1 without any problems.

Yeah...more info please! What MIDI interface????

hey sorry guys, been busy lately so pretty late reply

im using a ESI QuataFire 610 firewire interface with 2 midi in/out ....

any other details you need to know just ask

cheers

Sysex Librarian
 

HI All,

For some reason, I can't seem to get my sequencer (logic) to play back midi dumps correctly to my Virus B. It did work when I used another machine however.

For the mean time I recommend checking out this little app which is saving me significant headaches. I hope it will for all of you with Sysex dump problems or for those who get the 'wrong checksum' or checksum error error message.

http://www.snoize.com/SysExLibrarian/

Best regards,

Felix

Hi all... new here..

Anyway, I can send the sysex from my Virus C to SX just fine. I see the MIDI meter getting the data and I look at the list editor and it's all there. I edit a few patches and store them and hit play back from SX to make sure my Virus is getting the sysex back ok and it does not revert back to the dumped sysex version. Any ideas?

I've read the manual and it gives you hardly anything to go on, contacted tech support and no reply...

Anyway the midi filter is completely unchecked making sure that all messages are being sent and received from Cubase, I've double checked all the channel settings, connections etc... Everything else works normally, even Sound Diver. Are there ideal system settings that I should adjust? I have it set to "force to bank A", tried force to B etc... What other system settings should I have regarding receiving sysex data from Cubase?

Do I need to hit store before or after recieving the dump? Or should I theoretically just hit play in Cubase and be all set once the dump has finished sending? Again, the manual gives me next to nothing to work with. I'm running SX3 on WinXP with midi in and out from my E-MU 1820M sound card, all MIDI connections work fine as I sequence to and from the PC all the time and get a Sound Diver loop working for patch editing.

Thanks ..

everything looks ok.. though I've never used a C
if you haven't already you could try slowing down the tempo in SX a bit?





(can't believe I missed seeing this thread as i posted a midi dump question the other day doh)

I'm sending the sysex data at 60 BPMs... Also, I backed up several versions, bank A, bank B, and "total". I want to load some of the patches from the website but I don't want to lose my own presets....:(

it all looks fine to me mate, as best as can be seen without actually being there

is mem protect off?

can you test midi dumping on another piece of kit?


sorry I cant come up with anything else
good luck

My Control menu doesnt have "Midi Dump"...

Why cant I just back up my patches to a file on my PC somehow