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~+? 21.12.2005 05:51 PM

Psytrance production, synths and effects!
 
Ok what are the latest gadgets been used in psy production?

What?s being used to make the kiks bass and leads, pads and percussion in today?s Psy music?


Does anyone use Dave Smith Instruments Poly Evolver synth?
8)

Tomer=Trance 21.12.2005 06:29 PM

I belive the nord lead is the most popular HW synth in this genre.

the evolver is an amazing hybrid synth, they are revealing a new version of the mono (non poly version) evolver soon (maybe on this winter namm show) ,it will be a small keyboard version with some knobs,
that should be massive.

ledge 21.12.2005 07:23 PM

the bass line for full-on psy is very regularly the vb-1 in cubase.

~+? 21.12.2005 08:34 PM

I'm thinking of getting an evolver now :wink: , it?s a good price. Or maybe nordG2 or nord lead. The evolver sounds amazing and well equipped for Psy, fat bass/full on, pads leads and some amazing effects. Does the mono have better bass?

Gopal 21.12.2005 09:36 PM

I just recently picked up a JP8080 and alot of the sounds it makes are recogniseable in many psy choons

Khazul 22.12.2005 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ~+?
I'm thinking of getting an evolver now :wink: , it?s a good price. Or maybe nordG2 or nord lead. The evolver sounds amazing and well equipped for Psy, fat bass/full on, pads leads and some amazing effects. Does the mono have better bass?

As you allready have the virus, then I would go for an evolver or G2 modular. You might find way too much overlap with the NL3 (other than it being alot brighter/harsher).

G2M is probably the closest ive heard in a digital synth to analog - I think it runs at 96K sample rate internally which would explain alot.

I must admit to getting more and mroe tempted by the G2X :)

Hollowcell 22.12.2005 04:30 AM

I'd probably go for the G2 over the Evolver and the Lead3.

Although when getting into something like the G2, your tracks will probably take a sideline to programming.

If the musician in me were talking however (over the sound designer that is), I'd go for the Evolver. More hands on, with some really gutsy sounds.

Depends on what you really want to do though I guess. I'd say for this genre though, you would be pretty happy with a Nord of some description.

Tomer=Trance 22.12.2005 11:41 AM

i would go with the G2 aswell,
much better tool for performance aswell.

Juho L 22.12.2005 12:26 PM

G2 is great but is dangerous as you easily end up programming sounds instead of actually doing anything useful. What about investing in a softsampler and loads of sample CD's/DVD's + FX plugins and/or DSP card? Psytrance track is no psytrance track without good sample munging and FX.

~+? 22.12.2005 12:34 PM

G2 rack with Virus TI remote sounds like a cool combo, 8) if Access will make a remote for it that is?

The Evolver has a nice character in its sound I like. Wave sequencing on it sounds like a tool designed for Psytrancers :lol: The character of the Bass is TASTY to say the least, rounded rich both analog and digital and FAT powerful and nice and warm. That is very tempting.

I can?t say much for the G2's sound as I have not really heard much of it. For features it?s very interesting :wink: G2 was top of my list but now im not so sure :roll:

Khazul from Reading what's your real name? Have a feeling i may know you lol 8O

tranzash 23.12.2005 05:03 AM

I would definetly go for the G2 if I were you. G2 is the machine for psytrance, yeah it's a modular. You can make really complex sounds on it. Go to electro-music.com by mosc and check some mp3 of the patches there. You can create pretty much anything on it. Btw, anybody checked the
ridiculohyper patch by Tim, hehe (1 saw in and you get 126 saws out). You can create your own grain modules using the double and quad delay modules and stuff. V 1.4 is going to add the new patch mutator. If you use some delay modules and reverbs on it, your end signal will be 16bit, some people get very mad about this. You can create your own wavetables, filterbanks, analog delays, string osc(physical modelling), Vocoders and it will mangle you audio like :wink: . If you want hands on control, I recommend the 3 oct kb. The only problem that I have with my G2 is that it's 4 part multitimbrality. (btw, I have the exp board too)

~+? 23.12.2005 11:11 PM

Should I sell my TR909 and buy a G2? I do love my 909 8) but it's started to collect dust now and I worry about the ageing board. Just thinking of selling it makes my heart miss a beat lol. I have heard the G2 makes nice Psy kiks is it true? :D

Found this very nice theremin track on that site you posted love it. http://electro-music.com/forum/download.php?id=3394

The girl next door 24.12.2005 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ~+?
Found this very nice theremin track on that site you posted love it. http://electro-music.com/forum/download.php?id=3394

If you like that stuff,then you might just like some stuff we recorded a while back.
We didn't do the music,she just brought a few songs with her on CD and we packed um in Logic and recorded her voice over them...Its Italian if you were wondering :wink:

http://www.thegirlnextdoor.de/christel/track1finish.mp3

http://www.thegirlnextdoor.de/christel/track2finish.mp3

http://www.thegirlnextdoor.de/christel/track3finish.mp3

We are also thinking about using her voice for a Trance Track (Shes well up 4 it),but is there much call for Opera on Trance music??????

~+? 24.12.2005 03:14 AM

Its the theremin and the music i like! I cant stand opera singing :?

The girl next door 24.12.2005 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ~+?
Its the theremin and the music i like! I cant stand opera singing :?

Only really listen to trance meself...But she has got a good voice

soundmagus 29.07.2009 09:48 PM

Hi All,

I just released a course on how toproduce psy trance, it can be find at www.cubaseguru.com.

It uses The Virus TI amongst many other tools to create psy.

check out thepromo video on the site,

all the best,

Mark

Monobeat 30.07.2009 11:05 PM

Psytrance is not about the gadgets at all. It's all about production. Dark psy used lots of fx plugins, most soft synths. Lots of the older dudes are switchin it up to plugins as well. It's all in the techniques of production.

If you worry about what gear you need, you will miss the point of developing your skill. Between your virus, waldorf, good converters, and a few good drum sample libraries you can top the charts for years. Learning your instruments will bring you closer to making good psytrance than any synth. I hunted for psy gear for years and purchased all the synths I thought I needed. I ended up using them for a bit until I got to the point where as long as I had my virus and an analog synth to match, i was good to go.

For me. SH-101, Virus TI, and Ableton.

Labmonkey 31.07.2009 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The girl next door (Post 259741)
We are also thinking about using her voice for a Trance Track (Shes well up 4 it),but is there much call for Opera on Trance music??????

There was a minimal/progressive tack on beatport eariler this year that featured an operatic vocal. I really liked it. I'm at work right now but I'll post the track name when I get home.

I reckon it'll work. Personally for me though it would fail if it went to close the the adagio for strings remix type sound that's already been done. Then again I could be wrong about that, it always depends on the actual track.

Edit: Track is Deepfear by Sidekick (Andrea Roma Remix)

Genetix 10.08.2009 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Monobeat (Post 292261)
Psytrance is not about the gadgets at all. It's all about production. Dark psy used lots of fx plugins, most soft synths. Lots of the older dudes are switchin it up to plugins as well. It's all in the techniques of production.

If you worry about what gear you need, you will miss the point of developing your skill. Between your virus, waldorf, good converters, and a few good drum sample libraries you can top the charts for years. Learning your instruments will bring you closer to making good psytrance than any synth. I hunted for psy gear for years and purchased all the synths I thought I needed. I ended up using them for a bit until I got to the point where as long as I had my virus and an analog synth to match, i was good to go.

I have to agree it's not really about the gadgets but more about the production.......i think to make good psytrance you have to be clever with the arangement and the effects you use. of course you need good sounds to build on. ;)
I went out and purchased a load of equipment thinking it was going to solve everything but i quickly realised I was the weak link, the only way is to keep persevering and learning learning.

Genetix 10.08.2009 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by soundmagus (Post 292220)
Hi All,

I just released a course on how toproduce psy trance, it can be find at www.cubaseguru.com.

It uses The Virus TI amongst many other tools to create psy.

check out thepromo video on the site,

all the best,

Mark

I'm currently working through this course and can definatly recommend it:cool:


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