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grs 19.10.2005 04:24 PM

Headphone routing in the TI
 
I need to know if this is possible:

Headphone monitor (on the TI) the TI asio feed from the sequencer but not the virus parts that are playing via the analog outs.

The quality in the DA is awsome in the headphone, a tad more detailed than the RME Fireface 800, and that's saying something.

Same goes for the spdif, is it just a sum of everything, or output 1?

My wish is that these routings become user controlable.

blay 19.10.2005 04:28 PM

Re: Headphone routing in the TI
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by grs
The quality in the DA is awsome in the headphone, a tad more detailed than the RME Fireface 800, and that's saying something.

8O

big call. i dont have my TI yet but if you are telling me it is of that sort of quality then it will certainly have been worth the wait.....

if only next week were here already... ;)

cheers

blay

MADSTATION 19.10.2005 04:36 PM

Would this mean then that the analog outs sound even better than the audio going out of the USB(because the quality is already very impressive)?

blay 19.10.2005 04:40 PM

correct me if im wrong here, but i think the usb is on capable of 44.1/48k sampling rates, where as the analog outs push out 192k - no?

cheers

blay

dr. orange 19.10.2005 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blay
correct me if im wrong here, but i think the usb is on capable of 44.1/48k sampling rates,

and ONLY 16BITS!!!

blay 19.10.2005 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dr. orange
and ONLY 16BITS!!!

lets hope that change with future OS updates - but I honestly cant see it happening...

cheers

blay

marc 19.10.2005 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blay
Quote:

Originally Posted by dr. orange
and ONLY 16BITS!!!

lets hope that change with future OS updates - but I honestly cant see it happening...

cheers

blay

the internal resolution is much higher. furthermore you can use the Virus Control it in 24bit projects, no problem, the Virus Control converts the signal for you.
see, when you sum up signals, this is where you need the extra bits because you want full dynamics and no clipping. the virus sends submixes to the virus control and -at least to my ears- i cannot hear a difference to the 24 bit signal, the D/As get.

you can check this yourself - setup the TI as you audio interface and compare the quality of a signal piped through USB into your sequencer and back again to what you get from selecting the analog outs directly. i personally don't hear a difference but i would be interested in your opinion.

best, marc

dr. orange 19.10.2005 08:40 PM

well, nowmally, you hardly hear the difference between 24 and 16bits, but when you add some compressors and effects and so on, there'll be a difference. further, the TI could have dithered the sound going out through USB, so you don't really hear the difference, but it's there...

btw. the Virus TI uses 56bits internally, that's at least what access told me

marc 19.10.2005 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dr. orange
well, nowmally, you hardly hear the difference between 24 and 16bits, but when you add some compressors and effects and so on, there'll be a difference. further, the TI could have dithered the sound going out through USB, so you don't really hear the difference, but it's there...

btw. the Virus TI uses 56bits internally, that's at least what access told me

exactly. once you touch the signal, by adding effects or for instance by summing a couple of signals, you might here a difference. that's exactly what i mean.

marc

wildbill 19.10.2005 09:07 PM

the headphone outs on every keyboard i've had, have always sounded better than the analog outs. the headphone out also seems to have a higher volume.
maybe manufacturers do this for when people audition them before buying?


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