Patch Recall issue with ver 1.06R2 - Confirmed
 

can anyone with a similar setup (cubase sx 3.1 and TI 1.06r2 confirm?)
Essentially since upgrading to 1.06r2 I can no longer confidently save my tweaked sounds when saving a cubase song (could do this before). I basically would create a new song in cubase, open the virus TI and load a sound into 1 or more parts, tweak the sounds to my liking, make a groove, save the song in cubase and then close out. When I reload the same song, the TI loads with the right patch, but the sound is all messed up, its like it added massive distortion, delay etc to the patch. I basically have to redo the patch from scratch which drives me nuts as sometimes I tweak a sound for an hour or two looking for "that sound". I have confirmed this with other songs as well, even just minimizing one song in cubase, opening another - making a new song, then when going back to the first minimized song (with ti patch) the ti patch is all hosed up. Can anyone confirm this? I am currently just using the TI via usb, but may switch back over to midi cable for reliable sysex transfers of tweaked sounds. (This really stinks as I lost a really good song - can't remember the tweaking I did to get the sound I was using)

My specs - Windows XP SP2 | P4 3.0 | 2.0GB Ram | Sata Drives |
Echo Layla 24 | 3xUad-1 | Cubase SX 3.1 | Virus TI 1.06r2

ok, I am not one to complain just for the sake of it, but man this really has pissed me off. I just tried getting one of my sounds back, I can get close, but no cigar. I just had two people who heard the original song, say "it still sounds real good, but it's not quite the same". ARRGHHH.
ok, end of rant.

Doc, I can emulate a 'forget' using Virus Control to edit FILTER ENVELOPE - ATTACK. Save and load goes back to other attack.
The work around for this is to edit using the front panel of your TI then edit FILTER ENVELOPE - ATTACk, this is then saved properly in your Cubase song.

As for the exploding distortion notes, this happens if you play a note to the TI when its loading Virus Control. Sometimes it triggers a note by itself. Press PANIC and it goes away.

I'll see if my pre 1.06 r2 load ok and post back.

thanks for looking into this grs. are you using cubase sx 3.1 as well?

Yes

ok, here is the latest - same exact issue. I can confirm this over and over again and with simple tests. Open new song in cubase, load up the virus TI, select sound for TI, record midi part - everything is great. (no tweaking of sound). Close song in cubase, then reload and now sound is really messed up -detuned, distorted etc.
Here is what I did to try to fix this
1. Reinstalled 1.06 drivers/software and firmware - no good.
2. Uninstalled 1.06 and went down to 1.05 software/drivers - no good.
3. Reinstalled 1.05 this time with firmware - no good.
4. Reinstalled cubase 3.1 - no good
5. Installed cubase 3.1.1.944 update - no good.
6. Reinstalled 1.06 drivers/software and firmware - no good.
7. Tried a new usb port - no good.

I have just wasted a whole night/possibly lost a few good songs and now need to start over for a song that HAS to be completed in about two weeks.

Besides this issue, my system is running flawlessly with everything else - hardware/software. My computer is a dedicated daw and is not connected to the internet. Plus my virus is plugged into a highend surge/ups.

As you can see, slightly frustrated here. Any suggestions very much welcome!!!

8. Just tried using the external analog outs of the virus (instead of the usb for audio) - no good.

Essentially, everything sounds great when I load it up and play it. Record midi in cubase and playback - great. It's when I close the song and reload it where the problem comes in. It sounds like the oscillators get hosed with the reload.

ok, enough troubleshooting for tonight!

This is very strange, Doc - I have no trouble reloading a project in SX3 here.

When you load the song, do the sounds 'look' the same in the VC?

That's a very good question and so far the answer is no, there are definitely changes being made to the loaded sound. One thing I am finding is that the LFO rates are set to 1/64 after reloading (without me adjusting them). After adjusting the rates back to the original - the sound gets closer to the original tweaked sound, but it still sounds very gritty and distorted. I took a look at all the other pages (OSC, FX, etc.) and nothing else is different, I just can't track down what is making the sound all gritty, muffled and distorted.

Curiouser and curiouser.

What build of the VC does it show on the Common page, out of interest?