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mas 16.04.2006 02:50 PM

lowering of harmonic peaks
 
Hi mates,

I've got a problem with a violin sample of NN-XT in Reason.

Acutally I like the sound of this sample but there are too high peaks of the harmonics so that it horribly squeaks on every peak.

I've tried to turn it out with a parametric EQ but it doesn't work.

Hopefully, someone can help me. I don't wanna change the sample.

Cheers,

If you don't understand what I mean (may be because of my "great" :oops: English description), let me know and I'll upload a sample

Tomer=Trance 16.04.2006 04:44 PM

the easyest way of understanding what you mean is hearing a sample of the problem your talking about.

jasedee 16.04.2006 10:53 PM

I think I know what you mean, and I normally just automate the volume and duck the track when it gets to those harmonic peaks...

It is painful on the ears sometimes though!!!

Khazul 09.05.2006 02:41 PM

If in reason (v3) - try the following:

Setup a audio spitter, mclass suite compressor, and a parameteric EQ as follows:

out of NNXT into the splitter - one pair from splitter to the compressor in, another pair to the EQ. Out of EQ to the compressor side band. Now solo the side band on the compressor.

Tun the PEQ until the bit you dont like really screams at you. Now disengage the sideband solo - teak the EQ gain and Q and the compressor settings - that should now help to smooth it out alot.

If nescessary, stick an extra EQ inline with the compressor out and tune very gently to give a little extra cut, but not too much as it will leave a hole in the natural sound.

This basically the same principal as de-essing of vocals.

grs 10.05.2006 12:36 AM

Just use a 'cut filter' any good eq will have one. Not a thin parra metric eq with a high q, but that might work also.

Khazul 10.05.2006 12:45 AM

Were talking reason here :)

Plugging in radnom plugins/other hardware raises a few problems - or more to the point - its impossible :)

mas 15.05.2006 08:29 PM

Cheers for your advices but I've already tried all that things. first thought that's just on the peaks but found than out that it is a generally frequency problem on all harmonics. So tried to turn it out on every one but the only thing which happend was that the sample sounded like shit and the squeaking noise was still there.

I'm not really into violins and instruments like this one (I'm a classic computerbased musician :lol:), , so that I think that it could be that I tried to play it higher than it's possible on a real instrument. :oops:

at the end, I played the same thing once on one octave and once on two octaves deeper, tried to get a good mix beetween dark and squeaking, packed a cool trombone and e-grand in my track and called it "schizophrenic orchestra"....... :lol:....know it's not that bad like before when I thought it's gonna kill my ears.

maybe I'll upload it soon. would be nice to get a feedback because it's actualy my first track with "real" instruments instead of modulated synths.

Khazul 15.05.2006 10:50 PM

Violins often need to be layered with violas and cellos - classical arrangement 101 :)

Dont ask me wtf 102 is...

Gopal 15.05.2006 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khazul
Dont ask me wtf 102 is...

I thought it was "102: Don't use Reason"

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Khazul 16.05.2006 12:01 AM

LOL - there is that - but I tend to think of it as the muisical equiv of an etch-a-sktech these days, so it has it uses :)


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