New to TI. SPDIF advice please & Mixer conundrum
 

Hi all

Ok just got my new Virus Ti, updated to OS3 and having fun..lots of fun, its a beast that needs taming...spanking!

Been a few years since I last twiddled in the world of Midi, routing, mixing, insomniac nights and catatonic mouse movements in cubase. I'm a gearslut with loose change.

Need some help and got to experiment but would like some views before i go blowing my eardrums etc :)

Using Cubase 4 with Firewire as an input.

Plugged into the inputs on the 1620 desk are :

1-2 JV1080 (1st Stereo outs)
3-4 JV1080 (2nd Stereo outs)
5-6 Pro 08 (1st Stereo outs)
7-8 Access TI (1st Stereo outs)
9-10 Access TI (2nd Stereo outs)
11-12Access TI (3rd Stereo outs)
13-14(free) (MC505 when/if gets fixed)
15-16(free) (For when mate comes round with other kit sub mix)

Recently got some additional outboard gear and want to route it to record into Cubase 4 via firewire if possible or other solutions.

I know theres various combos but what I would like to do is get some suggestions on how to best implement into a working setup with the Mackie as the core interface.

Ideally I want to be able to route both the synths, modules, Cubase audio and Cubase vst channels into the outboard efx...ie : the Se70/Midiverb/Fireworx/TripleC.


Aux Return 1 (Alesis reverb unit)
Aux Return 2 (Boss Se70 EFx unit)
Aux Return 3 (TC Electronics Fireworx)
Aux or insert Triple C (whatever you think is best but like the idea of using the spdif for aither the Triple C or the Fireworx (gather I cant use both as Virus TI only has 1 in/out spdif).

I have an echo Gina 24 which has 2 inputs/8 outs and spdif in/out to slot in.

However as the Firewire works under ASIO, so does the Virus as a soundcard and the Echo Gina24 I can only have one unit operating as a soundcard in windows.

I do have a 2nd pc powerful enough and could run vststack but im worried about latency and again routing could get complex...

Im stuck and need some guidance or a starting point.

The basic question is to use spdif send/return from cubase and be able to use the Mackie firewire as an input audio as I use for monitoring as well.

Its seems complex and i cant get my head round the best solution..

Thanks and any further help or questions from myside to arrive at a good setup is appreciated.

peace

Thanks

I know this involves more than just the virus but if you want to focus on just the virus please do so :)

plug your mixer into your pc via firewire...

plug everything else into the mixer

ta daa

oh wait , you want someone to visualise your entire music setup and work out where everything should go for you?

ha ha

Still playing around...the basic question to help avoid the low IQ humour is simple, my mind was a flood with the routing when writing to help construct a response :-

Step 1 : To Use the Spdif as an aux send return for the Fireworx and setting clocks so Cubase 4 is the master Internal sync and the virus and fireworx both slaves.
Step 2 : To still be able to use the Mackie for mixing down the midi kit (synth/modules either with the virus on usb or analogue outs)
Step 3 : The Mackie can channel each individual channel down the firewire therefore I should be able to select which channels get efx routed (send/return) in Cubase 4 externally..However as with the Echo Mia 24 this produces 3 ASIO drivers (firewire/virus ti/echo mia24) and a windows system can only handle 1 at a time I am guessing).
Step 4 : Route everything like the smart person before be pointed out (the obvious is sometimes blind to the fact). The fact is the Mackie, I believe, does not send the audio when sent to 'the mackies aux/returns' down the fire wire.

Im trying to keep a clean signal and stay in the digital domain for A/D purposes.

Hope this helps clear the mud.

Thanks

An yes you are probably right but I am struggling to visualize a plausible solution. as said open minded.:twisted:

too many variables

how are you mixing ? cubase ? mixer ?

how many tracks can be recorded at once ?

do you need to record 6 channels of virus ?

how many tracks can your mixer receive as stems from cubase ?

why don't you just buy a couple of behringer patchbays and some looms ?