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Old 09.12.2004, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by diskonext
Not to state the obvious, but have you considered Max (and possibly even MSP)? It's a lot of money, but well worth it in my opinion.
Reminds me of ArtWonk/MusicWonk. Those are 4GLs as well -- all graphical operators strung together with virtual cabling. This can be found at http://algoart.com/ . These have steep learning curves as well. Learing all of the operators, basic everyday stuff, etc.

ArtSong ( http://www.artsong.org ) is somewhat between Music Generator and these others. The GUI is organized in a facsimile of tracks along a timeline, similar to what I'm used to with piano roll editors and such, but its tracks are individual algorithms.

Music Generator is instrument oriented and very little timeline control -- though you can insert arbitrary events it's organized in a vertical list, so you don't get a sense of the flow of things just looking at it. The upside is it offers more direct access to the algorithms and instruments.

I have experience with 4GL environments (Reason approximates this, attractively) from other settings, and they are powerful metaphors for some things, such as complex inter-relationships, but they tend to make time-oriented stuff and control structures (loops, etc.) a pain.
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