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Old 08.02.2006, 07:22 PM
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please dont knock me. I'm so new to this it isnt even funny.

I'm looking to make a wind sound rising. Slow attack of about 2 bars and on the 4 beat the wind then dissipates with some reverb to let it trail off.

I'm thinking just to turn the NOISE knob.

The thing is I need a clean wind sound. I don't want a synth in the background.

Can someone please help?

Thanks guys...
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Old 08.02.2006, 08:32 PM
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Evening mate.

Start with the initialised patch named "c127 -Start-".

First you will want to get the Noise Generator on its own, so you will need to turn off the main oscillators 1 & 2 and the sub....

....It's a little bit long-winded, but to do this press the Filter Routing button and choose the "Split" filter setting. What this does is route just Osc1 and Sub into Filter1, and then Osc2 and NoiseGenerator are routed into Filter2. It splits them off, in otherwords.

So, we don't want Osc1 or the Sub, so you can turn off Filter1 completely by turning the "Filter Balance" knob fully to the right. (The Filter Balance knob simply acts as a mixer for Filter1 and 2, so turning it fully to the right will fade Filter1 out completely while leaving Filter2 at full volume.)

So this will leave us with the NoiseGenerator and Oscillator2 going into Filter2. But you can't hear the noise generator at the moment as it's not turned up, so you will need to go into your oscillator menus and turn up the Noise to full so you can hear it.

But now you can still hear Oscillator2 with the Noise. To get rid of Oscillator2, just turn your "Osc Bal" knob fully to the left. You wont hear Oscillator1, of course, as Oscillator1 goes to Filter1 which you already turned off.

So you should now just be able to hear the Noise on its own.

Now you can play with the "Amplifier Attack and Release" knobs to get the slow fade in and out.

Add reverb or delay for a wishy washy effects (i like to use a slow delay on wind-type noise stuff).

Then you can mess about with the cutoff and resonance of Filter2 by first selecting the "Filt2" button, and then choosing from the "Filt2" Low/Band/High-pass options and using the Cutoff and Res knobs to make the wind "woosh". Keep the Res fairly low, though, otherwise it might be too piercing (or narrow, especially if band-pass is enabled). Low pass or band pass filters (with no resonance) are best for wind/sea noise type stuff.

You can also try altering the Noise "Colour" by going into the oscillator menu again to look at the Noise Generator settings. Negative "Colour" values will make the noise deeper and thunderous, while positive values give you a brighter, higher noise.

Then if you're adventurous you might want to start to experiment with LFOs modulating the filter2 cutoff (perhaps using a Sample&Glide LFO for a natural random effect), or mapping the velocity to the amplifer envelopes, or adding distortion effects and stuff.

The Phaser effect is pretty good on wind/sea noise, too! Change the number of phaser Stages for more natural or unnatural effects (fewer stages = more natural/subtle).

Hope this makes sense....
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Evening mate.

Start with the initialised patch named "c127 -Start-".

First you will want to get the Noise Generator on its own, so you will need to turn off the main oscillators 1 & 2 and the sub....

....It's a little bit long-winded, but to do this press the Filter Routing button and choose the "Split" filter setting. What this does is route just Osc1 and Sub into Filter1, and then Osc2 and NoiseGenerator are routed into Filter2. It splits them off, in otherwords.

So, we don't want Osc1 or the Sub, so you can turn off Filter1 completely by turning the "Filter Balance" knob fully to the right. (The Filter Balance knob simply acts as a mixer for Filter1 and 2, so turning it fully to the right will fade Filter1 out completely while leaving Filter2 at full volume.)

So this will leave us with the NoiseGenerator and Oscillator2 going into Filter2. But you can't hear the noise generator at the moment as it's not turned up, so you will need to go into your oscillator menus and turn up the Noise to full so you can hear it.

But now you can still hear Oscillator2 with the Noise. To get rid of Oscillator2, just turn your "Osc Bal" knob fully to the left. You wont hear Oscillator1, of course, as Oscillator1 goes to Filter1 which you already turned off.

So you should now just be able to hear the Noise on its own.

Now you can play with the "Amplifier Attack and Release" knobs to get the slow fade in and out.

Add reverb or delay for a wishy washy effects (i like to use a slow delay on wind-type noise stuff).

Then you can mess about with the cutoff and resonance of Filter2 by first selecting the "Filt2" button, and then choosing from the "Filt2" Low/Band/High-pass options and using the Cutoff and Res knobs to make the wind "woosh". Keep the Res fairly low, though, otherwise it might be too piercing (or narrow, especially if band-pass is enabled). Low pass or band pass filters (with no resonance) are best for wind/sea noise type stuff.

You can also try altering the Noise "Colour" by going into the oscillator menu again to look at the Noise Generator settings. Negative "Colour" values will make the noise deeper and thunderous, while positive values give you a brighter, higher noise.

Then if you're adventurous you might want to start to experiment with LFOs modulating the filter2 cutoff (perhaps using a Sample&Glide LFO for a natural random effect), or mapping the velocity to the amplifer envelopes, or adding distortion effects and stuff.

The Phaser effect is pretty good on wind/sea noise, too! Change the number of phaser Stages for more natural or unnatural effects (fewer stages = more natural/subtle).

Hope this makes sense....
Did you get that all off the top of your head...If so,respect..
Talking of wind sounds,is it possible to make a fart sound with the Ti???
You know...One where you press your arse cheeks so tight together that the whole room starts to shake...also so you don't shit yourself
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The wind thing isn't that complicated, really. It's practically just some noise with filter and reverb. Adjust resonance for a more or less "howling" sound. Very well explained though. About the fart thing, i have no friggin' idea
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IF you have a TI - easiest way is just select D-126
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Old 09.02.2006, 05:31 PM
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Thanks so much dude. I tried something last night from a crash and it was pretty decent.

But this is well explained. WOW!

I can't wait to try it this weekend. Damn only one more day of this crap then I can go design.

Thanks so much mate!

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Always blows me away how Timo can do that 8O

Get it?

Blows me away...?


I'll shut up now
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Always blows me away how Timo can do that 8O

Get it?

Timo Blows me when I need it...?


I'll shut up now
Really?! 8O

Hehehe.

Hey you can write a lame joke, so why not twist it into something sexual.
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Evening mate.

Start with the initialised patch named "c127 -Start-".

First you will want to get the Noise Generator on its own, so you will need to turn off the main oscillators 1 & 2 and the sub....

....It's a little bit long-winded....
Naaah - just turn OSC VOL all the way down and NOISE up.
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Wow! More synth royalty lurking here at the Unofficial Access Virus Forum...

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