Virus TI and export ( how 'bounce' works with the TI) ?

[scr]

Hello, I Would like to know how the 'export' works with the TI and a Sequencer.

If I work with Cubase, will I be able to export my TI midi tracks in real time like with any VSTi or will I have to record them in audio tracks before I can render them in wav, Aiff or Mp3 format ?

Thanks.

[jasedee]

I imagine it will be much the same as you are used to working now....

You record the MIDI tracks first, then when you are ready, set up an audio track and choose it's input (either USB or audio input) and then hit record.

[scr]

Im not convinced because The TI works is a Hardware/Software/Audio card
If if you want to bounce you tracks and If you use the TI as an audio card the Ti midi informations could be easily converted without pre-recording them in audio tracks.

If think Total integration goes far away than just controlling your Virus in your sequencer.

Can someone from Access tell us if it possible ?

[grs]

Yes, true bounce function would be wicked! I usually work at a low sample rate and bounce my mixdowns at 176Khz. Most plugins and soft synths sound better when renederd this way.
I get the feeling the dsp engine of the TI would be fixed at a high internal rate regardless of the Asio sample rate, all streams via usb would be down sampled to meet the Asio rate.
Thats just my guess. Otherwise you would get differnt voice counts for 44.1Khz than at 96Khz.

This brings up another question about the USB 1.1, can it handle the amount of streams if you were working at 192Khz in Asio?

[scr]

But there is a lot of audio card that use USB1 protocol.
You can bounce the tracks in the sequencer without problem.
(If im not wrong). so I think the Ti could it.

[grs]

Originally Posted by scr

But there is a lot of audio card that use USB1 protocol.
You can bounce the tracks in the sequencer without problem.
(If im not wrong). so I think the Ti could it.

My point here was not bouncing but just setting your project at 196Khz and working with 3stereo busses from the TI and wether there was enough bandwith on USB 1.1 for that many tracks.

[ddp]

Originally Posted by grs

My point here was not bouncing but just setting your project at 196Khz and working with 3stereo busses from the TI and wether there was enough bandwith on USB 1.1 for that many tracks.

The Access web site says it's USB 2, not USB 1.1. USB 2 at 480Kb is roughly equivalent to Firewire 400, so we're in the right ballpark at least.

It's a pity they didn't use Firewire, as there's less host CPU overhead associated with sustained data transfer over Firewire plus Firewire is inherently peer-to-peer and designed to chain well. I dream of the day when I have everything I need on a Firewire 800 bus off my Powerbook.

But it's still absolutely wonderful to have the audio routed over the USB!

[Merlot]

Originally Posted by ddp

The Access web site says it's USB 2, not USB 1.1. USB 2 at 480Kb is roughly equivalent to Firewire 400, so we're in the right ballpark at least.

It's a pity they didn't use Firewire, as there's less host CPU overhead associated with sustained data transfer over Firewire plus Firewire is inherently peer-to-peer and designed to chain well. I dream of the day when I have everything I need on a Firewire 800 bus off my Powerbook.

But it's still absolutely wonderful to have the audio routed over the USB!

It is USB 1.1 compatible with 2.0 ports though. So it runs 1.1 not 2.0.

[ddp]

Originally Posted by Merlot

It is USB 1.1 compatible with 2.0 ports though. So it runs 1.1 not 2.0.

Hum, I'm not quite sure what you mean by, "runs 1.1". You're either USB 2 or you're not. Any USB 2 device is "compatible" with USB 1, meaning a USB 2 device can fall-back and communicate with USB 1 devices (at the slower USB 1 speed).

But that's certainly not how you'd want to configure the TI ("Compatible with USB 2.0 specifications, USB and High-Speed USB devices"). You'd want to use a pure USB 2 chain. I'd expect "full" USB 2 speed when so configured. Otherwise I'm not following where the bandwidth is coming from either...

See http://www.everythingusb.com/usb2/faq.htm for more info on USB compatibility.

[Merlot]

USB 2.0 ports are backwards compatible with 1.1. So in other words you can use the virus TI, which is 1.1, on a 2.0 port.