Riff and bassline problem - The Unofficial Access Virus & Virus TI Forum

mphasis · #1 06.02.2009, 05:55 PM

I was just wondering if anyone can help me out.I'm having a bit of trouble making my basslines and riffs sit together.The lower notes in the riff are interfering with my rolling bassline making a muddy mess.When i put a riff and bassline together with other plugins like nexus there's no problem but when i do it with my virus TI the sounds sound to big.It sounds like the cycles of the oscillators going back and forth to me making parts stick out more,but what do i know i haven't got a clue lol.Do you have to EQ the riff so the lower notes are quieter?

If anyone can help that would be great,Thanks.

By the way i'm making hard trance.

Monobeat · #2 06.02.2009, 06:21 PM

My bro. You've encountered the 1 most important aspect of bassline + synth creation. 2 frequencies in 2 different instruments cannot happily abound in the same space... The freq range that is being filled by both instruments will always get muddied up. You can count on that. Which is why your Virus has a built in EQ. Go to your LOW EQ and boost the EQ gain by 6 DB or so and then sweep the frequency until that muddy sound REALLY jumps at you, then do a cut at that frequency, meaning turn the EQ gain counterclockwise until that muddiness completely dissappears. At that point,

, you can even bump the bass in the opposing bass or synth to your taste.

mphasis · #3 06.02.2009, 06:59 PM

Cheers for your reply i will give this a go.What part do you EQ,the synth or the bassline?Also what did you mean by bump opposing bass or synth?

Monobeat · #4 06.02.2009, 07:14 PM

You want to remove the frequencies from the synth, leave all the bass intact in your bassline. Your synth would be opposing the bassline, meaning competing in the same frequency range.

mphasis · #5 06.02.2009, 07:29 PM

Thanks for your help.

nick cenik · #6 10.03.2009, 12:05 AM

Right on the money Monobeat! Good advice

davinski · #7 05.04.2009, 12:37 AM

Just put a highpass filter on the riff. cutting at about 130-300

annikk.exe · #8 06.04.2009, 02:07 PM

If your synth sound is running through a band pass filter, you can make a slightly more organic fit by turning filter keyboard tracking to -15 or so.
This means that lower notes played on your synth will have a slightly higher cutoff, resulting in a roll-off of the lower frequencies when you play low notes.
This effect may have unintended consequences though, depending on the exact nature of the patch.

-Annikk