Places to learn about creating FM sounds on the virus?

[the_apparatus]

I am sure the virus (I have a b model) can create patches similar to the old TX81z synth - you know, paperboy style sounds.

I don't really know where to begin, I am more familiar with analogue style subtractive methods.

Is there some guide on the internet to FM synthesis with an access virus? (not including the one on Access' web site - that doesn't show you how to create them from A127!)

[Timo]

Mmm, AFAIK Virus doesn't really do full blown FM synthesis. The FM pot and settings are more for dirtying the sound - as an effect - I think.

[hatembr]

Virus cannot be compared to a DX7, but you can get some nice leads and athmospheres using its FM applied on the spectral waves.
But to answer you question, i've never seen any site that demos that, even the synthesis tutorial on access's website deals only with analog sounds (AFAIR)

[Midi_Glider]

like many analoge synths, the Virus does only the simple "analog" FM, it doesn`t do the more complex "pure" FM (you need many operators with dedicated envelopes for that).

there are several soft synths out there ( FM7, Styrus, EJ and others) that do pure FM very well. you should look into does if your after that classic Yamaha FM type of sounds.


Best,
midi.

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Ive just recently bought a DX7 MKII FD....been wanting to delve into FM synthesis for some time. No analog (beit virtual or true) does FM like the DX does....

Many people say the DX7 was a bitch to program. I now understand why......there are just so many paramters. You have 6 operators, each of which can be assigned 8 envelope generators and 8 pitch generators.....woohooo headf*$&!! Depending on what algorithm you choose (of which there are 32) the 6 operators are set up in very different ways....and accordingly their behaviour changes. Then you have all of the various modulations, velocities.....not to mention tuning of each operator. Wow.....its a sadists programming dream come true!!

There I was thinking the Virus was flexible (and it is) but the DX7 is in another leage thx to its 8 stage pitch EG's etc etc. Amazing.

The DX7 MKII has a wonderful key action too. You cant go wrong.

DS

[Tomer=Trance]

and all of that is done on a primitive cpu chip.
brilient japanish...

why do they use the word operator insted of oscilator?

[wildbill]

Originally Posted by Tomer=Trance

and all of that is done on a primitive cpu chip.
brilient japanish...

why do they use the word operator insted of oscilator?

the 'operators' can function as both 'carriers' and as 'modulators', and there has to be a way to distinguish between these functions.

they essentially are both oscillators, but one modulates the frequency of the other.

[the_apparatus]

Thanks for the replies. I hear what you say about the FM only being used to effect the sound, but there are a lot of 80's, digital sounding patches in the virus already (I think a lot of bank D has them).

So which of the 60 or so waveforms are the 'spectral' ones? Are the waveforms grouped together in any particular order?