Kick Drums part 2

[caleyking]

Having investigated other means of making compressed kick drums - essentially the same method/approach is the same for all software/hardware, bascially take a sine wave and eq it and maybe overlay it on a sub bass note.

If this is true the Virus C should be more than comptetant - so why use other products?

[XLR8A]

You can always make your bassdrums with Kurzweil K2600...

[Smag]

Originally Posted by caleyking

Having investigated other means of making compressed kick drums - essentially the same method/approach is the same for all software/hardware, bascially take a sine wave and eq it and maybe overlay it on a sub bass note.

If this is true the Virus C should be more than comptetant - so why use other products?

The Virus is competant but that doesn't mean to say it's the best choice for kicks. Other products like dedicated drum machines can achieve results faster which means your creative flow won't be interupted as much. It makes a big difference to have compression, harmonics, decay, pulse and pitch at your fingertips. Beware of the softsynth. The ones i've tried can't hold their dynamics when say, you shift the pitch down and the kicks end up sounding pathetic.

[Blank]

I have made plenty of kicks that sound good, I think you just need to mess around with it...res and env on the filters can give it a punchy tone!

peace
Blank

[Drammy]

Check out stomper here

I used this to make all my kicks until I bought a Machinedrum! The machinderum can create THE most powerful kicks.

But stomper is good, of course like most kicks you will still need to EQ and compress to taste, doesn't matter if it is coming from the Virus or not...

[XLR8A]

I use akai sampler for drums, i don't even bother synthesizing drums those days,
cuz the sampler gives me much wider possibilities than a synth for those purposes.

[Blank]

Think of it this way...all of those samples in the akai are synthesized! They are just layered! Unless of course you are talking about accoustic drums...and i cant use those all the time...but to each his own!

peace
Blank

[XLR8A]

Originally Posted by Blank

Think of it this way...all of those samples in the akai are synthesized! They are just layered! Unless of course you are talking about accoustic drums...and i cant use those all the time...but to each his own!

peace
Blank

Not exactly, i create my own programs and layer my samples manually.
I'm not into using readymade loops from Akai CD's because it limits my
creativity. Btw, it's not about accoustic or electronic drums only, for different
projects i create and layer different samples to get the sound i want to hear.

Sampler it's actually a synth, the biggest difference is the waveforms - you
can use any imaginable sample as a starting waveform, and transform it in
the same way as you do in regular subtractive synthesizing environment.
So, with resampling - your imagination is the only limit...

[Blank]

I think you misunderstood what i was saying! Unless the sample is of real accoustic drums it has been made by a synthesizer, even tone generators in sound forge and wavelab are simple forms of synthesizers...and with this you can take any synthesized drum and record it...making it a sample...then you can layer it with others...where do you think these samples come from? just pop out of thin air?

peace
Blank

[XLR8A]

Some samples i synthesized years ago, some i took from sample cd's,
and some of them i recorded "from thin air" in bigger studios while
engineering other projects and single studio sessions.

Layering light accoustic drums with hard synthesized electronic ones -
it's a key to get some badass drums for almost every imaginable music genre.

From my experience, sampler is a proper tool for making professional
sounding drums and percussion. With only a synth or a drum machine
i just feel too limited, with a sampler there is no such limits at all.