TI: Too Perfect?

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Originally Posted by jasedee

Perhaps......Sometimes those timing 'issues' make it feel more 'human'???

With analog gear yes....

With digital gear...more like a epileptic robot....

DS

[blay]

Originally Posted by DIGITAL SCREAMS

With digital gear...more like a epileptic robot....

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[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Yeah heheheeh

DS

[Timo]

Talking of old skool stuff, is there any way to turn off the smooth vectors that blend between discrete CC midi values on the Virus, to induce the "stepping" that occurred with the digital synths of yore?

An MC505 sounds cool with the resonance whacked up, and then using the filter knob to slowly step between the 127 filter-cutoff midi values - effectively using it (and accentuating it) as an effect.

[ben crosland]

Originally Posted by Timo

Talking of old skool stuff, is there any way to turn off the smooth vectors that blend between discrete CC midi values on the Virus, to induce the "stepping" that occurred with the digital synths of yore?

Yep - you'll need to do this individually for each patch though.

Check (Single) Edit> Common>SmoothMode.

Turn it Off.

-=BC

[Nigel Harkness]

Not to sound like a novice but what is "sample tight intergration"

[Timo]

Originally Posted by ben crosland

Yep - you'll need to do this individually for each patch though.

Check (Single) Edit> Common>SmoothMode.

Turn it Off.

-=BC

Weh hey, nice one! Works really well too.

Cheers Ben.

[marc]

Originally Posted by Hollowcell

All the latest talk about timing is really over hyped (now that you bring it up Blay).

Latency/timing only became an issue when the first softsynths hit the scene. However, there were people setting up huge daisy chains of equipment creating slopy timing, but appart from that, midi is no problem what so ever - specially if set up right.

As long as the sequncer is recording and playing back exactly what I've played going in, then that's all I need.

I can run 16 channels of midi, with over dubbed CC automation, going out to alot of different hardware while at the same time having it all synced to midi clock with no glitches at all! I'm happy enough.

The TI being too perfect? Wavetable, hypersaw, full multi-timbral functions including FX and 80 voices does sit pretty high in my books, but sample tight intergration is not that high on my list.

i disagree on that. the problem with MIDI is certainly not that timing is not perfect. the problem is that timing is not predictable. i give you an example. you want a bass to sit right on the kick. with midi, there is pretty much no chance to control which event the sequencer sends first. so you add a pad to your kick/bass arrangement and suddenly, the bass i s late. then you compensate with MIDI delay but once you play a more complex chord with the pad, you bass moves again. maybe because the channel the bass is on is being send after the channel the pad is played on, maybe because you synth does priotize things differently.

perfect timing is not about taking the life out of the music. it is about a note on event remaining on the same position, no matter what you change in the arrangement.

it sounds basic but did you ever think about the reasons artist have to go through all the trouble to sample their MIDI synths and use samples instead of the actuall MIDI triggers when they arrange?

i believe that human timing (as long as the players are good) is the perfect base for a good groove. thousands of artist have proven that. but as little as you want your drummer to be off after a break you want your synth bass to hit the kick only occationally.

best, marc

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Thx Marc....good answer. OK, lets go back to CV gates.

DS

[saba]

The simple fact is that MIDI is old and survived a fair bit longer than it should have. Its only possible to do communications across it at, what was the figure, 18kbaud?

Maybe a MIDI2 one day.
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