TI or C = ?6-700

[mrvinyl]

right so i'm still torn between buying a:

virus classic
a virus C
or a full octave version of the TI

obviously the latter is the one thats gonna empty my pockets the most

what would you do if you had the choice

[Timo]

If you want the wavetables, the hypersaw, the virtual control, the added polyphony, the usb midi + audio, the independent reverb and delay effects per part, the programmable arpeggiator, the larger LCD, then save up and buy the TI. If you don't feel you need or want any of those features, then buy the C.

It doesn't matter what we'd want. It's what you want. Of course people would say a TI if you didn't already have a Virus, but it's your purse-strings.

[mrvinyl]

it would be nice to have the vsti bit, the wavetables and the hypersaw i'm not sure what that is

the interface side of things I don't really need as i'm quite happy with my pulsar soundcard

independent effects per part sounds nice

larger lcd nice

programable arp yep nice

but by the sounds of things I get all that and lots of bugs

where as the C maybe I could achieve all the above with a bit of tweaking, recording here and there

[Timo]

>>hypersaw i'm not sure what that is

Ever heard of the Supersaw (Roland JP80x0)? The Supersaw is 7 x sawtooth oscillators stacked on top of each other (with adjustable detune) using just 1-note polyphony.
The TI's Hypersaw is the same thing but allows 9 sawtooth osc's to be stacked using just 1-note poly. It also allows the sub-osc's to be stacked, so you could have 9 x square waves, too.

Wavetables are very short, 1-cycle PCM waveforms that can be morphed from one wavetable to another. They're very digital-sounding.

You could use independent effects (distortion, chorus, flanger/phaser, analogue boost) on all parts on all viruses - the proviso was that you had to make do with just one reverb+delay globally (applied to ALL parts at the same time, but with control for different wetnesses). The TI differs only in that it now supports reverb/delay per part, too.

[mrvinyl]

Great thanx for that timo!

right so now then i'm gonna buy

as far as I can see in the UK turnkey is the only place to get a brand new full octave TI

where can I buy a brand new virus C? can't seem to find place's that sell them?

[Mayday Dream]

I dont think you can get them new any more

But you made the right choice with the C (imo)

But if you see a used B cheap it might be worth getting that. save lots of money and still have virus sound.

In terms of synthesis they havent really changed that much since the B. well not enough to justify the price difference from a used B to a brand new TI

[mrvinyl]

the interface side of things I don't really need as i'm quite happy with my pulsar soundcard

just a thought......

seeing as it acts as an audio interface
could the TI conflict with my PCI creaware pulsar souncard in anyway?

[Gopal]

Originally Posted by mrvinyl

independent effects per part sounds nice

larger lcd nice

programable arp yep nice

but by the sounds of things I get all that and lots of bugs

where as the C maybe I could achieve all the above with a bit of tweaking, recording here and there

You're dead right and that is prezactly why I would recommend the KC for you. It's your money though and your choice

[mrvinyl]

are the KC discontinued?
seen any second hand ones anywhere,or know anywhere that sells them new?

[bishopkris40]

They'll slowly appear on ebay etc again now the TI is stable. But look at soundcontrol.co.uk, I bought my TI from there.

If I were you I'd put the extra money up for the TI only if I was sure I could afford it,sometimes I find myself wishing I had just bought a C and a good sound card, but as the updates get better I find myself happy as can be.


By the way Hyper saw is currently so under-rated as it is hardly used, most of the patches are still using loads of unison etc to get phatter sounds, but I think that'll change soon. (Is it normal for access to release new sounds with later OS releases?, there are still 2046 patches in ROM to be over-written)

As for MK2, Access are taking a lot of stick at the moment because people are having problems, they will iron these all out before deciding if they will go to a TI-B or just change to something else, (imo)

This synth will never leave my set-up as I'm sure many people feel about the previous models, so it doesn;t really matter what you buy you'll love it, it only matters if you are the sort of person who has regrets and will sit an pine for the TI's features if you buy a C.

I have the full TI-K and I can tell you it has excellent keys and will be my main controller from now on, as it can also do remotes.


(pity I can't play the bloody thing )

Cheers
Kris