Quantized notes sound un-quantized

[oblivion]

Wow! this is serious problems, I was going to buy a Snow or Desktop very soon but now I am not so sure about it anymore.

It may be so Access have to little horsepower in the Virus TI??? that is what I think.

Are there any user who use it professional in Studio without sync problems?

SERIOUS!!!!

[Totty]

Originally Posted by oblivion

Wow! this is serious problems, I was going to buy a Snow or Desktop very soon but now I am not so sure about it anymore.

It may be so Access have to little horsepower in the Virus TI??? that is what I think.

Are there any user who use it professional in Studio without sync problems?

SERIOUS!!!!

Well yes I think it's serious, everytime I mention it I don't really get alot of feedback, either I'm imagining it, or people generally haven't noticed it (I find that hard to believe) or it's an unmentionable wall of silence

I've never meant trouble by posting issues, sometimes I question whether I have, but I can categorically say I have noticed several issues which I perceive to be DSP power related and although I'm no engineer I feel I am correct on this one.

The other thing I've just thought of, when I had my Indigo2 (before I drowned it in wine and got an Insurance payout - for once in my life luck was on my side and I got a TI as a result) I programmed some sounds using the Moog filter in self oscilation. On the Indigo it used to make a great kick. On the TI, it looses the attack for about 5 keypresses and then starts to play back if you play back multiple keys in legato. I know these are probably rare sounds using the filter and envelope like this (including recursive modulation) I always found it disconcerting that the TI had problems playing those sounds exactly. Flame me if you like, but I'm sure there is a technical reason why..

I welcome people's comments!

[oblivion]

Is it better when using the TI with just MIDI or is it the same?

How many tracks before it cracks up?

Wery important questions for me, so please I need your opinions.

Anybody whithout quantize problems?

[Totty]

Originally Posted by oblivion

Is it better when using the TI with just MIDI or is it the same?

How many tracks before it cracks up?

Wery important questions for me, so please I need your opinions.

Anybody whithout quantize problems?

Well I don't use it with midi, never really have to be honest. I can perceive modulation going awry with 3 tracks running. If I recall one had 2xUnison, and the other has the formant modulation I've mentioned. This is on a TI Polar.

[paulkeeley]

in my experience, it's the same regardless if i'm using MIDI or the TI plug-in. definitely an issue with the synth's dsp as near as i can tell. realistically i can use 2-3 patches in a multi with reasonable polyphony (12-note max) before things get really out of whack.

however, even using single patches, there is a definite internal timing problem. still in the process of sorting it out with support. they've been unable to recreate the issue on their end and suggested it was due to my set-up, but i've tested it with all of my possible midi interfaces (usb and firewire) with the exact same results.

so i'm thinking it's either to do with a hardware batch being flawed, or they're turning a blind eye. i'm very much hoping it's the former, as long as it's fixable. i just want to be able to reliably use my synth instead of having to mask it in the mix.

[grs]

OK, just talking to myself here, did a total uninstall of access and virus ti software etc, cleaned registry of traces of access and virus ti stuff. (I've had the same XP and virus ti combo for over 3 years )
Fresh installed 3.0.5 and got sample accurate timing, yay!
But lots of stuck notes and less polyphony, no joy.
Two tweaks later and back to normal...
The tweaks are:
Regedit - HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Access Music\Virus TI\Virus Control
change ShowMIDIActivityMeters to 0 ( something to do with my graphics setup and dual view vertical monitors or what ever )
and
Lower RME buffer to 512 from 768
Each of these tweaks alone doesn't stop the stuck notes but together they are bliss.

[leaker]

Originally Posted by grs

OK, just talking to myself here, did a total uninstall of access and virus ti software etc, cleaned registry of traces of access and virus ti stuff. (I've had the same XP and virus ti combo for over 3 years )
Fresh installed 3.0.5 and got sample accurate timing, yay!
But lots of stuck notes and less polyphony, no joy.
Two tweaks later and back to normal...
The tweaks are:
Regedit - HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Access Music\Virus TI\Virus Control
change ShowMIDIActivityMeters to 0 ( something to do with my graphics setup and dual view vertical monitors or what ever )
and
Lower RME buffer to 512 from 768
Each of these tweaks alone doesn't stop the stuck notes but together they are bliss.

hmm this has been very interesting this thread as we have had latency problems since having the ti we have had it on two systems we have never been able to get it working using virus control, we do however use two moniters and i notice here you mension duel view being a problem maybe? what have you done here mate to get rid of your problems? have you turned these services off or something?

[grs]

Yeah, the re-install / clean out of registry was probably the biggest thing. Now printing mixdowns is about painless as using other other vsti-s.
One time since then I got some spazz timing but noticed I changed the buffer on the RME to 1024 for something else, then changed back to 512 and all was well again.

Newborn: Good luck with your quest, everything I suggest is in my post you quoted.

[grs]

One more thing, if your using another sound card disable the 'Virus TI Audio 2.x.xx' driver in device manager.

[leaker]

thanks mate il give this a whirl and il let you know how i get on