1.09 hotfix update available

[Drammy]

Hi all,

Marc has posted this on another mailing list, though it would be of interest to us as well...

Originally Posted by Marc Shlaile

dear ti users,

in response to the recent "Satan's Saw" reports on this list, a hotfix
update has been released just now. we believe we recently found a possible
reason for the TI crashing in the way it was described on this forum.
please note that the 1.0.9 Hotfix Release is a maintenance release and will
only update the operating system of your Virus TI hardware. it will not
improve the mac/pc driver and plug-in side of things. it is not intended to
anticipate OS1.1

the Hotfix Update can be found on the access website.

have a good weekend,

marc
access music

...and in case some of you are unaware of Satan's Saw, here is a mail on the same list from our very own Tarekith...

Originally Posted by Tarekith

Yes, we call it satan's saw. Very, very annoying and the reason
why I can't take the TI live yet. Imagine that over a pumped up
Turbosound PA.

Ummm...no.

On 3/15/06, M E <m......@g.......com> wrote:

The last
> time it happened there was a pop and then an extremely loud and high
> pitched buzz, like a very short sample buffer played in a fast loop.
> This came out at full blast and was easily loud enough to damage my monitors.

Drammy

[Tiphares]

Thanks for the post!
I tried the hotfix out, and I must say, till now i couldn't provoce a satans saw. But unfortunately, the clicks and pops in several multipatches still remain (especially when a lot of notes are played). In my opinion, this clicks also come from a dsp/os-errors and have to worked out in a further hotfix/os-update.
But I want also say a Thankyou to the Access support for still reading our forum and not forgetting us...
Greetings, Tiphares

[soundsubs]

I am installing the hotfix now and will report back my findings.



THANK YOU ACCESS!!!

[stonejunction]

I'm not noticing any difference - there doens't seem to be a change log to tell you what has been done - anyone else got a more stable virus with this?

[soundsubs]

i have about 8 octaves of 1/4 notes going now, no clicks, pops, or other.
i am tweaking knobs and changing patches in seq mode, nothing amiss at all (happy to report)

if someone can point me to a known program that has clicks, i will try it out with that.

[Drammy]

Marc clearly stated that this fix was intended purely to attempt to eradicate the satan's saw and is not designed to improve stability (that is still scheduled for OS1.1)

Only a few users have reported the satan's saw, but it sounds sooo extreme that users were blowing their monitors, so Access had to act on this prior to releasing OS1.1

If anyone does get improved stability - it might be worth dropping Access an email as it may help them understand more about the current stability issues...


Drammy

[Tiphares]

Originally Posted by soundsubs

i have about 8 octaves of 1/4 notes going now, no clicks, pops, or other.
i am tweaking knobs and changing patches in seq mode, nothing amiss at all (happy to report)

if someone can point me to a known program that has clicks, i will try it out with that.

I hardly ever have clicks in a single program, i usually have them in multimode. I often use more than one patch on the midi-channel one, so i can play them all a the same thime with my midi keyboard (the keyboard isn't splitted up). If you program such a multi take care that you only take calm patches, so you can hear the clicks (2 or more siultanous parts). Then, play as many keys you can play and you will hear clicks from time to time. I'm not sure but maybe it's because the ti runs out of polyphony or has promlems to allocate the dsp-ressources.
BTW, i use the ti in standalone mode (no usb, just midi).

[grs]

I agree on the note stealing polyphony thing. I think the logic of the DSP is taking notes that have a long release and taking them before they fully release, causing a DC click. Like when you cut a sample of a kick when it is not at zero crossing.

If you notice in single mode when you change patches from a patch that has an long release or a long reverb the DSP will fade it out quicker that the patch would normally do so. In multi mode or seq mode the DSP has to do this a lot more if you know what I mean.

[Sleepwalker]

Originally Posted by grs

I agree on the note stealing polyphony thing. I think the logic of the DSP is taking notes that have a long release and taking them before they fully release, causing a DC click. Like when you cut a sample of a kick when it is not at zero crossing.

If you notice in single mode when you change patches from a patch that has an long release or a long reverb the DSP will fade it out quicker that the patch would normally do so. In multi mode or seq mode the DSP has to do this a lot more if you know what I mean.

This sounds logic, actualy.

How come all other hardware synth companies get it right? Maybe access should hire some better suited programers... Dont meen to pull it down here, just thinking realisticly.

[namshub]

wow thanks....

i'm sure the promoter will be happy to know there is a fix for the sound that destroyed his rig sat nite,,,,,,,,

namshub