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View Poll Results: Soft Synths or Hard Synths?
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14.81% |
Hard
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81.48% |
Gimme a guitar any day
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28.04.2005, 10:59 AM
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I voted hard because to me they just sound so much better. I prefer the hands on tweakability of a hard synth aswell.
Software has the advantage of integration with no recording etc. but hardware still wins it for me.
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28.04.2005, 12:44 PM
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use both
i personally love the korg legacy collection (soft) and also have the korg triton (hard) and love them both !!
they are very different....but you can do more with hardware IMHO
i see softsynths as a "add on" sound bank, and prefer tweaking hardware synths
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28.04.2005, 09:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DIGITAL SCREAMS
To me, hard and soft means......
Hard - true analog components, voltage controlled.
Soft - Software based sound (even if its wrapped up in 'hardware knobs and buttons')
My definition encompasses what generates the sound. The Access Virus is a softsynth in my eyes. So to is every digital synth ever made. Softsynth with a 'hardware' interface.
True analog synths represent real hardware. Theres no denying it.
DS
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What about the filters, the adsr envelope, etc etc those are hardware circuitry aren't they? To consider the Virus a softsynth, the sound would have to not pass through the filters. Is this true? Do the filters just control calculations on the dsp board or does the sound actually pass throught them?
Lots of old analogues had the sound generated by a DCO but the rest was analogue, ya get where I'm goin with this?
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28.04.2005, 09:54 PM
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Gopal.....
I believe the filters, envelopes etc etc are all software generated. The software is programmed into the chips? What you are hearing is 100% software. Look at the Virus Powercore.....its all software....
I cant think of many DCo synths....most of the old analogs were VCO. But anyways...DCO are still analog.....its just that there tuning was digitally controlled.
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29.04.2005, 09:57 AM
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DS your looking at software from the wrong direction...
dsp runing software and synth synths have total different capabilities.
i still think dsp is better then cpu.
i cant realy see the virus runing on a pc without taking about 80% of a 3gh prosessor.
but if you think about it a 3ghz pc will cost you less then an accual virus
i wish it was affordable to easly connect between computers to creat a massive low latency daw system. (ah... dreamy...)
about the virus stracture,i belive its all software and coding,not a single piece of analog cuircitry is used.
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01.05.2005, 09:40 AM
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Voted hard, because KNOBS.
Yeah, I know you can get midi controllers but you have to swap the controller over for different softsynths, or even different instances of the same one.
And the fact they don't chew up CPU power is pretty important as well.
As far as sound quality goes, there is no reason that softsynths shouldn't sound just as good as hardware VAs as underneath they are both digital.
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01.05.2005, 08:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DIGITAL SCREAMS
Hard - true analog components, voltage controlled.
True analog synths represent real hardware. Theres no denying it
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03.05.2005, 11:47 PM
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Software anytime,
Ableton Live, some creamy VSTs, some sampled 808 kicks through a flanger. As for control, BCR2000? 2 of them? Wee!
Add some hardware and an analog mixer into the mix for some added effect, but don't take my PC away!
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05.05.2005, 09:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Analog Warriors
Quote:
Originally Posted by DIGITAL SCREAMS
Hard - true analog components, voltage controlled.
True analog synths represent real hardware. Theres no denying it
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co-signed !
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05.05.2005, 09:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by diskonext
Software anytime,
Ableton Live, some creamy VSTs, some sampled 808 kicks through a flanger. As for control, BCR2000? 2 of them? Wee!
Add some hardware and an analog mixer into the mix for some added effect, but don't take my PC away!
-diskonext
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Granted, but do you really like the super clean sound (sometimes sterile) that you get from using digital instruments and digital recording? For me, half the fun is bringing in dirtyness and a certain rawness....hence I really dig those early 90's rave tunes. Alot of analog gear......
I hope analog gear goes down in price and becomes more mass market....but everytime manufacturers release more digital stuff....the price of analog gear just keeps going up. Surely, one of the major players could release some analog mono's with keys for cheap. Im not into the inflated price of new Moogs....or the osbscurity = high price of power modulars (M5).
Come on Roland, Korg, Clavia & Access. Make some real analog!!!
DS
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