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05.01.2009, 02:26 PM
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btw, if anyone is interested, here's the test project i put together in Ableton Live 7 along with the single patch in sysex format:
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=e...db6fb9a8902bda
for each test, i simply changed the oscillator type of OSC1. in the recorded audio you'll notice how OSC1 drifts out of time from OSC2 (which is just a simple classic sawtooth).
i'd be very interested to know if any of you experience the same thing with your synths.
cheers,
paul.
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05.01.2009, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by paulkeeley
btw, if anyone is interested, here's the test project i put together in Ableton Live 7 along with the single patch in sysex format:
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=e...db6fb9a8902bda
for each test, i simply changed the oscillator type of OSC1. in the recorded audio you'll notice how OSC1 drifts out of time from OSC2 (which is just a simple classic sawtooth).
i'd be very interested to know if any of you experience the same thing with your synths.
cheers,
paul.
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Hi Paul,
I had a listen. I can hear from your audio what you are saying. I'm more logic based and I set up a similar test using your patch. With just those 4 chords and changing oscillators I have to say it sounded more accurate than your file... Was this played originally in VC or via midi?
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05.01.2009, 07:59 PM
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Totty! do you have Mac or do you have the old Logic for PC?
Can you please test the Virus TI with MIDI?
Thanks!
I shurley hope that the TI performs better with Mac and Logic Pro? if not, it is bad horsepower=old horses it may be!?
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06.01.2009, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by oblivion
Totty! do you have Mac or do you have the old Logic for PC?
Can you please test the Virus TI with MIDI?
Thanks!
I shurley hope that the TI performs better with Mac and Logic Pro? if not, it is bad horsepower=old horses it may be!?
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Hi Oblivion, I'm on a Mac with the latest OS on Osx and VC and Logic 8.02.
I think Paul has just answered the issue below, it seems midi timing is worse - which it should be as the VC is supposed to be sample accurate.
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05.01.2009, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Totty
Hi Paul,
I had a listen. I can hear from your audio what you are saying. I'm more logic based and I set up a similar test using your patch. With just those 4 chords and changing oscillators I have to say it sounded more accurate than your file... Was this played originally in VC or via midi?
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thanks for giving this a go Totty - i haven't tried the test yet in Logic - i assumed (possibly incorrectly) that the MIDI timing between Ableton and Logic would be the same - i'm predominantly a Logic user myself.
i recorded the notes in realtime and then quantized them to 16th notes within Ableton. i'm running an iMac C2D 2.16ghz so horsepower shouldn't be an issue there.
i'll give it a shot tonight within Logic and see if that makes any difference whatsoever.
cheers,
Paul.
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06.01.2009, 02:25 AM
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ok, i tried the exact same MIDI clip in Logic 8, and i'm still getting the same note drift.
here's the Logic project if anyone's interested in trying it out further:
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=9...db6fb9a8902bda
cheers,
Paul.
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06.01.2009, 02:42 AM
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aaaaaaand since i clearly haven't posted enough today on this topic, i've made a bit of a breakthrough.
in VC mode, everything is rock solid. it's only in MIDI standalone mode where the timing goes to hell and back. again, no problems with my other synths whatsoever using the same MIDI interface(s), cables, etc.
so, it must simply be the way the TI is handling MIDI input info. or at least that seems to be the case with mine.
hope this helps in any way, however insignificant.
cheers,
Paul.
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06.01.2009, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by paulkeeley
aaaaaaand since i clearly haven't posted enough today on this topic, i've made a bit of a breakthrough.
in VC mode, everything is rock solid. it's only in MIDI standalone mode where the timing goes to hell and back. again, no problems with my other synths whatsoever using the same MIDI interface(s), cables, etc.
so, it must simply be the way the TI is handling MIDI input info. or at least that seems to be the case with mine.
hope this helps in any way, however insignificant.
cheers,
Paul.
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Hi Paul, sounds like you have made a breakthrough I'm downloading your Logic file and will have a go here too. From what I know the VC timestamps midi events so the timing should be accurate on VC, However as you say, your other midi synths don't exhibit this problem.
I will also try a midi connection to my TI, may take me a few days as I'm set up very minimally at the moment, so I'll have to dust off my AMT8 and Motu in the attic
Best regards
Michael
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06.01.2009, 12:00 PM
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Very interesting thread!
I hope Access is reading this.
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22.04.2009, 08:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paulkeeley
aaaaaaand since i clearly haven't posted enough today on this topic, i've made a bit of a breakthrough.
in VC mode, everything is rock solid. it's only in MIDI standalone mode where the timing goes to hell and back. again, no problems with my other synths whatsoever using the same MIDI interface(s), cables, etc.
so, it must simply be the way the TI is handling MIDI input info. or at least that seems to be the case with mine.
hope this helps in any way, however insignificant.
cheers,
Paul.
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odd that ur problem only occurs in midi mode.. mine is both present in VC AND midi modes, also present whether i use TI as my interface OR my m-audio, ALSO when i use analog outs (all outs).
BUT here is one interesting tidbit... DOESNT happen for me in ableton. plays PERFECT there. Something is up with the connecttion btwn logic to leopard or logic to VC or both.
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