Snow+Novation SL+Sysex?

[ens]

What I'm thinking in my head is that I want to control every parameter on the snow with my Novation Remote SL just like you can control the desktop, keyboard, or polar via their front knobs and buttons.

So far I'm under the impression that you can via Sysex messages from reading a few posts on here. One problem, I've never programed sysex with the SL or with anything.

I'm trying to find possible documents defining the Sysex messages sent from the TI, but I'm having trouble with that. Does anyone have a link to get me started in the right direction? Checked that manual but I couldn't find much. Couldn't even find CC#'s or the like.

I wouldn't mind trying to find a already made template, but to be honest I kinda want to dig my hands into it and configure my own custom one.

I have a whole week off of work and I've been wanting to set up a really nice template to do live tweaking of the snow.

Any help would be awesome! Thanks in advance!

[soulidstate]

I had a correspondence with Novation regarding the same concern as yours. send me email at soulidstate@gmail.com and I'll forward to you their answer.

[Splat!]

BlairWillis from this forum has made the Template for the Snow to link up the RemoteSL. You could ask him for help. I've got a copy, but I'm much of a mouse user
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[Gyulus68]

Hi! I think it's very easy to create your own setup instead of using a template. You should use/overwrite one of the first 36 templates. You can get the manual from the Novation website. Use CCs, and check the list, what -i think almost all- will work. Maybe it is time consuming but it is worth that... Default Midi CC´s

0=0-Bank Select
1=1-Modulation Wheel
2=2-Breath Controller
3=3-Contr 3
4=4-Foot Controller
5=5-Portamento Time
6=6-Data Slider
7=7-Channel Volume
8=8-Balance
9=9-Contr 9
10=10-Panorama
11=11-Expression
12=12-Contr 12
13=13-Contr 13
14=14-Contr 14
15=15-Contr 15
16=16-Contr 16
17=17-Osc1 Shape
18=18-Osc Pulsewidth
19=19-Osc1 Wave Select
20=20-Osc1 Semitone
21=21-Osc1 Keyfollow
22=22-Osc2 Shape
23=23-Osc2 Pulsewidth
24=24-Osc2 Wave Select
25=25-Osc2 Semitone
26=26-Osc2 Detune
27=27-Osc2 FM Amount
28=28-Osc2 Sync
29=29-Osc2 Filt Env Amt
30=30-FM Filt Env Amt
31=31-Osc2 Keyfollow
32=32-Bank Select
33=33-Osc Balance
34=34-Suboscillator Volume
35=35-Suboscillator Shape
36=36-Osc Mainvolume
37=37-Noise Volume
38=38-Ringmodulator Volume
39=39-Noise Color
40=40-Cutoff
41=41-Cutoff2
42=42-Filter1 Resonance
43=43-Filter2 Resonance
44=44-Filter1 Env Amt
45=45-Filter2 Env Amt
46=46-Filter1 Keyfollow
47=47-Filter2 Keyfollow
48=48-Filter Balance
49=49-Saturation Curve
50=50-Contr 50
51=51-Filter1 Mode
52=52-Filter2 Mode
53=53-Filter Routing
54=54-Filter Env Attack
55=55-Filter Env Decay
56=56-Filter Env Sustain
57=57-Filter Env Sustain Time
58=58-Filter Env Release
59=59-Amp Env Attack
60=60-Amp Env Decay
61=61-Amp Env Sustain
62=62-Amp Env Sustain Time
63=63-Amp Env Release
64=64-Hold Pedal
65=65-Portamento Pedal
66=66-Sostenuto Pedal
67=67-Lfo1 Rate
68=68-Lfo1 Shape
69=69-Lfo1 Env Mode
70=70-Lfo1 Mode
71=71-Lfo1 Symmetry
72=72-Lfo1 Keyfollow
73=73-Lfo1 Keytrigger
74=74-Osc1 Lfo1 Amount
75=75-Osc2 Lfo1 Amount
76=76-PW Lfo1 Amount
77=77-Reso Lfo1 Amount
78=78-FiltGain Lfo1 Amount
79=79-Lfo2 Rate
80=80-Lfo2 Shape
81=81-Lfo2 Env Mode
82=82-Lfo2 Mode
83=83-Lfo2 Symmetry
84=84-Lfo2 Keyfollow
85=85-Lfo2 Keytrigger
86=86-OscShape Lfo2 Amount
87=87-FMAmount Lfo2 Mount
88=88-Cutoff1 Lfo2 Amount
89=89-Cutoff2 Lfo2 Amount
90=90-Panorama Lfo2 Amount
91=91-Patch Volume
92=92-Contr 92
93=93-Transpose
94=94-Key Mode
95=95-Contr 95
96=96-Contr 96
97=97-Unison Mode
98=98-Unison Detune
99=99-Unison Panorama Spread
100=100-Unison Lfo Phase
101=101-Input Mode
102=102-Input Select
103=103-Contr 103
104=104-Contr 104
105=105-Chorus Mix
106=106-Chorus Rate
107=107-Chorus Depth
108=108-Chorus Delay
109=109-Chorus Feedback
110=110-Chorus Lfo Shape
111=111-Contr 111
112=112-Delay/Reverb Mode
113=113-Effect Send
114=114-Delay Time
115=115-Delay Feedback
116=116-Delay Rate / Reverb Decay Time
117=117-Delay Depth / Reverb Room Size
118=118-Delay Lfo Shape / Reverb Damping
119=119-Delay Color
120=120-Contr 120
121=121-Contr 121
122=122-Keyb local
123=123-All Notes Off
124=124-Contr 124
125=125-Contr 125
126=126-Contr 126
127=127-Contr 127

[ens]

Hey Gyulus68 thanks for the info! There are a few parameters missing on the list, but those should keep me busy programming the novation for a bit.

I would really like to have control of all the parameters such as different OSC types with the wave name displayed on the SL. As well as having the extra osc controls appear and disappear on the lcd's when engaging complex grain osc etc. Although I'm not sure if it is possible I am willing to try and find out. I just want to make the most pimp controller map I can for the snow.

[civan]

Hey would the Novation X-Station 25 Key be a good candidate for controlling the Virus Snow?? I tried using my Pioneer DJM800 which didn't work all too well since I didn't map anything. Unfortunately I had to let go of my Snow before I could try again.

What are some other 25 Key controllers that have a Midi out? We should make a list.

I remember somewhere in the list of forums that someone wanted to use the Nano Key controllers with the Snow. I looked into this a while back and it looks like it could get really complicated. The solution is simple... a USB in to Midi out device. Since there is no such thing, someone has to design one. Apparently it's easy to make devices that output USB data but it is much more complicated to design a USB controller to interpret that data. Basically it's not worth it. There's no market for it so no one will design and make it. I'd recomend if you want to use a USB midi controller for live use, then get a cheap used netbook and dedicate that to the Snow. I suppose you need a DAW to use it still... So we'll have to wait till Access makes a snadalone VC version.

WHEW! Wasn't expecting to write that much. I get so into my forum writing sometimes.

[Cantankerous]

I am using the Novation SL Remote line of controllers and they work fantastic with the Virus, and another other plugin/soft synth for that matter.

[ShortBus]

If someone can find a way to map banks b,c&d PLEASE let me know. I too use a SL61 but currently only have bank A- peramiters maped. I would glady give anyone my template I have all filters, env. and fm mapped to knobs and ableton midi clips maped to buttons.