VST+MIDI Control - is it possible?

[Coax]

Hello, mates!

I'm wonder can I connect my TI through midi and analog outputs, but still use VST control plugin?

If I just route the signal to the analog outputs from the VST control plugin the midi data still going through VST anyway and I've got huge delay. Virus midi in/out does not work than virus is connected through usb.

Every time than I need to record audio from my virus I need to disconnect USB.

So, can I make virus midi work than it's connected through usb?


Thanks!

[enossified]

Do you have a MIDI interface already? If so, just try it (doh). Virus Control will complain if it can't find your TI.

Are you saying you are getting high latencies with MIDI over TI USB and audio through another interface?

Did latency improve at all compared to running both audio and MIDI over TI USB?

What's your DAW, what's your computer, what's your audio interface, etc.?

Just asking because some (most?) users (like me) use the TI USB connection with no latency problems. That means something in your setup is the issue.

You seem to assume that the delay is the MIDI triggering the TI late. If anything, the MIDI timing over USB should be tighter than using a MIDI interface because the data doesn't have to be serialized over a (slow!) 31KHz link.

[Coax]

Hey, enossified! Thank you for reply.

Yep, of course I have MIDI interface. And virus work with no problem if usb disconnected.

Yes, if I select analog outputs in Virus Control I get very high latencies.

If I connect all through usb all sounds great.

My DAW is Cubase 5. Interface MOTU Ultralite MKIII.

QuadCore Intel Core i7-950, 3200 MHz
24GB RAM
Win 7 SP1

[enossified]

Originally Posted by Coax

Yes, if I select analog outputs in Virus Control I get very high latencies.

If I connect all through usb all sounds great.

My DAW is Cubase 5.

OK, if you only get the high latency when using the analog outs through the MOTU why are you doing that?

Sorry if that sounds stupid

[Coax]

Sorry, don't understand. What do u mean? Because I need to record audio from virus And I get high latency only if I use virus control. If I connect virus through MIDI all sounds great.

[enossified]

You wrote:

If I connect all through usb all sounds great.

Then you wrote:

If I connect virus through MIDI all sounds great.

Do you get high latencies when routing audio over the USB connection (NOT analog to the MOTU)?

[Coax]

Originally Posted by enossified

Do you get high latencies when routing audio over the USB connection (NOT analog to the MOTU)?

Just like I said - if I conned ALL (virus connected over USB and audio routed to USB output) over USB - I don't have latency.
If I connect virus over USB, but route sound to analog output - I got high lantecy.

[TweakHead]

don't route it through audio, then... seems pretty straight forward... unless you think there's real value on your soundcard's pre amps or something you can't afford to do without for some patches - if that is the case, then you can only bounce it down and either have some latency compensation feature on your daw, that would place the audio track on time, after recording, or adjust by hand... I think the problem here is you need to compromise... but I have a hard time imagining why you can't do without using the audio outputs if everything's sounding great through the usb connection man... just run with it...

other option would be, to make your patch and when satisfied, connect the virus as an external instrument through midi - like you'd have to do if you're using the virus C - make it play the midi and record the audio, I bet latency is better doing that, I mean I'm running such setup here (virus C through midi) and latency is hardly a issue, only when I'm running plenty (and I mean plenty) of tracks on a project...

Hope this helps, let us know

[TweakHead]

(doubled the post... sorry) EDIT

[enossified]

OK, why do you want to use analog outputs instead of USB? That's what I was asking.

In other words, if that works why are you not using it?

Back to your original question: try connecting the Virus MIDI in and out through the MOTU and try selecting the Virus Control VSTi in Cubase's VST Instruments rack. If it cannot detect a Virus attached, then it won't work. It's that simple.

I've looked all over the manuals and the Access forums and there is no discussion of using Virus Control with the MIDI ports instead of USB. My guess is it won't work if there is no USB connection at all.

Other things to check: in Virus Control do you have the Live switch set on or off?

Sorry if I haven't been very helpful