TI crashing Ableton when loading project

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Hi guys, occasionally I'd get a Ableton Live project that would crash upon loading. Live 8.xxx would just black-screen reboot my machine (PC). Live 9.xx would just say app crash module VirusUpdater_x64.dll or something like that. You could do this again and again and sometimes your project might open but 90% would keep crashing (hours may pass by with all the rebooting).

So here is my work around to load problem projects.
Have your TI in sleep mode.
Load problem Live project. (yes this prevents the crash, but turning it on again now is bad, crash city)
Go to TI track and turn off plugin.
Save project as something new. ie "save12_virus-plug-off"
Close project.
Close live.
Reboot computer, power cycle the TI at the wall.
...then
Have your TI in sleep mode.
Load new save "save12_virus-plug-off" Live project.
press the transpose button to wake up the TI, wait for on sate.
Go to TI track and turn on plugin.
And your good to go.

So that's only if someone else in the entire world has this problem. My net searching came up with nothing.

Update 1! 29/5/13 Now I have a stubborn project that wont open with this method. I think it's kind of random. Got it open once today then couldn't later on in the evening with a newer save. Bummer

Update 2! 29/5/13 I removed Jbridge plugins and found that SSL Duende Native (32bit) was probably the culprit. Loads every time without crash so far.

Update 3! 31/5/13 So I crashed again at loading time no matter what plugins I removed. My new theory is that the order of loading is making the crash happen. New solution is to put the TI plugin on the top most track in Live. You can see it load early on before live has loaded the other vsti and other effects. Before it used to be in the last few tracks near the bottom of Live and you could see the TI loading and Live would crash exactly as the TI said "synchronising..."