VIRUS powercore at NAMM 2004

[marc]

Originally Posted by Royal Tee

Did anyone notice that you have to pay more for a "DSP license" to use it to it's full potential.
WTF is that?
Every VST that I use can be used as many times as your CPU can handle.
I see the fate of this coming real soon.
Especially with alot of users just using an old PC for their VST's.
It makes no Sense

i can see where you're coming from. but you need to take a look at it from a different angle:

access is a company out for feeding their employees and make some money to grow. i guess that's kind of understandable.

the licensing scheme allows us to offer people a smaler version without restricting the feature set (which has been done a lot in the past). sure, this is kind of new to the plug-in world but we believe it's a really fair way of letting people choose and therefore scale their system to their needs.

>Especially with alot of users just using an old PC for their VST's.
>It makes no Sense

check out the powercore (http://http://www.tcelectronic.com/PowerCore). this is a DSP afterburner for you computer, it actually takes the load _off_ your computer)


marc

[Tomer=Trance]

so they give users on a low budget a chance to get the basic virus
i agree the price is reasonable

[Royal Tee]

Originally Posted by marc

i can see where you're coming from. but you need to take a look at it from a different angle:

access is a company out for feeding their employees and make some money to grow. i guess that's kind of understandable.

the licensing scheme allows us to offer people a smaler version without restricting the feature set (which has been done a lot in the past). sure, this is kind of new to the plug-in world but we believe it's a really fair way of letting people choose and therefore scale their system to their needs.

>Especially with alot of users just using an old PC for their VST's.
>It makes no Sense
check out the powercore (http://http://www.tcelectronic.com/PowerCore). this is a DSP afterburner for you computer, it actually takes the load _off_ your computer)
marc

Marc, I'm pretty familiar with the unit so I Know what is and exactly what it does.
My point is that people would rather use their old PC as a VST/DSP Machine and save a few bux as opposed buying a "DSP Afterburner" for $1300,
Then having to Buy more Plug-ins for $300 bux a pop,
Then having to buy a More Expensive License to Use the Plug-in that you already paid for to It's full potential.
IOW.
I'd Rather use a VST System Link or any one of the New Music Networking Devices on my Old PC and use it just for VST's.

Originally Posted by Tomer=Trance

so they give users on a low budget a chance to get the basic virus
i agree the price is reasonable

That's If you Consider Spending $1300 for the Unit then another $XXX for the Virus then More $$$ if you want the full license
Reasonable 8O

[ben crosland]

Originally Posted by "Royal Tee

My point is that people would rather use their old PC as a VST/DSP Machine and save a few bux as opposed buying a "DSP Afterburner" for $1300,
Then having to Buy more Plug-ins for $300 bux a pop,
Then having to buy a More Expensive License to Use the Plug-in that you already paid for to It's full potential.

I don't think that your suggestion is so obvious a solution as to apply to everyone - I would certainly prefer not to use 2 PCs.

You are also forgetting an important point - a lot of people already own the PowerCore! For these people, the price of the Virus plugin makes a lot of sense. Whether or not people will buy the PowerCore purely to get the Virus remains to be seen.

As for your perspective on the license system - I take it you're a 'glass is half empty' kind of guy, huh?

[Royal Tee]

Originally Posted by ben crosland

As for your perspective on the license system - I take it you're a 'glass is half empty' kind of guy, huh?

What F*#@* Glass !!!! Jerked again! Aaaarggghhh!

If they already own it Then Hells Yeah, Go for it!! Stupid not to.
After Re-Doing my Studio (Below) and spending lotsa $$$ on it, I just like to weigh out my Options. I actually Considered the Powercore until I researched and came to the conclusiion that it was a Stomach-less money eater. Now Where's My Damn Water!!
>> Click Here for my Studio Specs <<

[ben crosland]

Nice studio!

As for the PowerCore, I think that the addition of the Virus will give it a lot more credibility, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if it encourages other manufacturers to develop for it. FWIW I'm *very* impressed with the plugs that are bundled with the PowerCore.

[Timo]

Nice studio RT. Do you get much use out of your MC303?

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Now, back on topic... When are we going to have another outbreak? (Virus D) !!

[Tomer=Trance]

i would rather see a Virus M (for Modular)

[Timo]

Dya reckon they'll release owt at Frankfurt? Dunno how long I can hold off waiting for their next synth! Might buy me a Virus B in the meantime.

[Royal Tee]

Originally Posted by Timo

Nice studio RT. Do you get much use out of your MC303?.

Thanx, Funny you should ask.
I'm waiting for My "C" to get here so I can connect em both. The 303 has been neglected since re-building the Royal Palace.

Originally Posted by Timo

Now, back on topic... When are we going to have another outbreak? (Virus D) !!

I was hoping to hear of a new Virus with a USB/Firewire port, a Smart Media card slot and an ADAT/Toslink out so you can go 8 channels in digitally to the PC but I think that's to much to ask.

Actually, They should release a normal updated Virus and Call it the Virus-D then add all the Digital features and call it the Virus-Digital. If they Built one and Sold it for $2000-$2700 I'd get one in a heartbeat.

I think alot of manufacturers should be more conscious and adapt/create/configure their products to todays technoligies.