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Old 05.10.2005, 10:56 PM
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Default waiting for polar and was wondering.....

yes im wondering if
i can run a project in nuendo 3 @ 24/96 (i usually work in this format)
and use the the plugin with the usb stream?

or would i have to use the analog outs for this?

*************UPDATE*****************

USING THE VC PLUGIN AND USB AUDIO STREAM DOES NOT
MANDATE WHAT SAMPLING RATE YOUR HOST MUST BE IN!

THE PLUGIN WILL PROVIDE THE APPROPRIATE AUDIO STREAM!!!!
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For other rates, like using a 96kHz project, the Virus Control does provide you with an appropriate audio stream.

The Virus will not prevent you using your prefered project environment. Just try it.
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Old 05.10.2005, 11:37 PM
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to clarify...

since the usb streams are 16/44
does also the project in the host have to be done @ 16/44?

if this is the case...that just plain sucks.
and quite a stupid implementation of (total intergration)
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Old 06.10.2005, 06:32 AM
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yes it is a bit disappointing that sample rate options are limited for the time being. im sure we will see the required OS update to facilitate this soon enough...

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Old 06.10.2005, 06:43 AM
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so it isnt possible!

wow thats really sad 8O

it most definatly has to do with the availible bandwidth with
USB

24/96 requires more..
wonder if they have even the headroom for it

this makes me seriously reconsider my purchase.

hate working @ 16/44
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Old 06.10.2005, 07:21 AM
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so it isnt possible!

wow thats really sad 8O

it most definatly has to do with the availible bandwidth with
USB

24/96 requires more..
wonder if they have even the headroom for it

this makes me seriously reconsider my purchase.

hate working @ 16/44
its usb 1, should have been usb 2 instead, then itd work! Strange decission to make from access...
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Old 06.10.2005, 07:29 AM
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just u to know
that none of the big pro's aren't workin with 24/96
all work in 24/44 or 16/44
why becouse the final cd is in this format and what happens when u plays in converting 1 to another the qualety fukess up ..so all ur effort evantualy gone..
consider my post...
and maybe only maybe im wrong and it does have some advantges in it???!!!
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Old 06.10.2005, 08:07 AM
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I think alot of people seem to start with everything maxed (96, 192 or whatever their computer will go upto) then over time eventually realise that it just isnt worth the hassle and slowly fall back down to 48 or even 44.1 because then the PC/Mac can handle so many more channels and is generally alot less stressed.

Most of you digital sounds sources are probably 44.1 anyway at best (digital synths). Theres quite a few outboard processors that work at 96 which is maybe useful with EQs and Enhancers, but no big deal for most fx processors.

I run Cubase SX and everything in the direct digital chain at 44.1 these days - its just so much easier and everything just works reliably - if some dodgy plugin does happen to sound noticeably crap at this sample rate - then fine - Ill use something else.

Also until the sound is in my mixer (which effectively means computer as well) - I use analog signals everywhere - its just easier and consistent and patch bay friendly. Noise isnt an issue with careful wiring. Someone once commented "oh yeh cool - for that extra 'analogue warmth'". Im just thinking FFS...! No not for 'analogue warmth' - its cos it just works and no interconnect issues

I have a friend who runs a commercial studio - his approach is pretty much the same except that they dont track direct to a computer - instead track to multi-track hard disc recorders then upload to computer. The extra step is just because hard disc recorder tend to be guaranteed to be glicth free - computers aint. Incidently - those hard disc recorders are probably running at 44.1.
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Old 06.10.2005, 08:30 AM
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actually i usually always work in 32/96
there are HUGE advantages.

im surely thinking of canceling because of this.
it sucks i was looking so forward to the polar.

crazy that for you to use the total intergration
you have to work @ 16/44

most vsti synths do 96k
the difference in sound is staggering.

what a shame.Its because of the damn usb1!
should have been firewire

i would even be happy with 1 96k stream

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Old 06.10.2005, 08:38 AM
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but it is not possible to
run the host program @ 96k
and have the usb stream @44???

that wont work right?
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Old 06.10.2005, 10:33 AM
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you keep saying working in 24/96 is such a huge advantage. tell me what these are? as someone else just mentioned, mastered CDs are 16/44, how the hell can it then benefit you working at different bitrates etc.

i know some mastering studios want the source in 32-bit float etc, but i think you can export it as this format AFTER actually working with the project in 16/44.

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