waiting for polar and was wondering.....

[MADSTATION]

nutekk: I totally understand your frustration(especially when I read the comment from technomonster) but I think you might have missed the point. When using the analog outs you CAN work in 24bits(and you can still use VControl to control any parameters)...the restriction only applys when using the USB AUDIO channels.

[nutekk]

yea im glad you can see what im saying.
ive switched to mixing 24/96 last year and havent looked back since.

the only problem with working at the high rate is that it
uses alot of cpu cycles.
so in order to compensate for this i want to get a few hardware synths
so i wont have to use so many vsti and take the load of of my pc.

so the virus ti got me very excited.its an audio interface
a control surface, a badass synth engin and a good looker too.

but to use it at a 24/96 rate i would have to use the analog outs!
problem is i have a pulsar soundcard with only 1 set of analog inputs.
the rest are didgital (16)

so some of the luster has worn thin...i cant just plug it up and intergrate it
without buying another sound card.

so using the analog outs...the usb just tranfers midi data
could have just used a midi cable for that~

to me this is a misrepresentation of what it was.
it is only "TI" when you are running @ 16/44
i dont think this is what they initially intended.
for sure if they continue with the "TI" line
the next one will be able to do the higher rate.

the benefits of mixing and recording at higher rates then 16/44
are easy to hear...no matter what the medium.
even if going to cd.
do some research and you will find it to be true.

dont kid yourself the future is higher rates then 16/44

[ben crosland]

Originally Posted by nutekk

the benefits of mixing and recording at higher rates then 16/44
are easy to hear...no matter what the medium.
even if going to cd.

Easy to hear for some people, but 99% of the buying public couldn't care less, I can assure you. Especially being as a good deal of them probably listen to most of their music in mp3 format now..

[nutekk]

yea im glad you can see what im saying.
ive switched to mixing 24/96 last year and havent looked back since.

the only problem with working at the high rate is that it
uses alot of cpu cycles.
so in order to compensate for this i want to get a few hardware synths
so i wont have to use so many vsti and take the load of of my pc.

so the virus ti got me very excited.its an audio interface
a control surface, a badass synth engin and a good looker too.

but to use it at a 24/96 rate i would have to use the analog outs!
problem is i have a pulsar soundcard with only 1 set of analog inputs.
the rest are didgital (16)

so some of the luster has worn thin...i cant just plug it up and intergrate it
without buying another sound card.

so using the analog outs...the usb just tranfers midi data
could have just used a midi cable for that~

to me this is a misrepresentation of what it was.
it is only "TI" when you are running @ 16/44
i dont think this is what they initially intended.
for sure if they continue with the "TI" line
the next one will be able to do the higher rate.

the benefits of mixing and recording at higher rates then 16/44
are easy to hear...no matter what the medium.
even if going to cd.
do some research and you will find it to be true.

dont kid yourself the future is higher rates then 16/44

[nutekk]

Originally Posted by ben crosland

Easy to hear for some people, but 99% of the buying public couldn't care less, I can assure you. Especially being as a good deal of them probably listen to most of their music in mp3 format now..

this is such a crappy attitude.
im shocked. 8O

[ben crosland]

Originally Posted by nutekk

this is such a crappy attitude.
im shocked. 8O

It's not an attitude - it's an observation.

[nutekk]

that is rubish.
you have met with and discussed with 99% of the buying public
please!
as stated before it doesnt matter what the target media may be
mp3,cd, or vinyl
it still makes a difference if you mix @ a higher rate.

this "attitude" is negative.
and imo shouldnt be coming from a company such as access
who i thought were dedicated towards sound.
it seems though they havent been paying attention...
and goofed the "ti" aspect of the synth

im not saying it isnt a great sounding synth.
im am saying that "TI" shouldnt have been the name

and you should make customers aware that
if they are planning on using the "ti audio" feature
you will have to set your hosts to 16/44

i would have been really upset if my purchase was final.

[ben crosland]

I am not an Access employee, so my statement should not be taken as a reflection of their 'attitude'.

[nutekk]

yea..........
of course not.

[technomonster]

to NUTTEK AND MADSTATION

i really apologise!!!!!! for my silly

i personally like 16 bit 44.1, the reason is it by far is the toughest sounding.

a nice tough edge - to knock "em

comment.

what you say about the future being higher rates is so true, and i am scared of it.
but still i can hear a difference between 16 bit and even 24 bit.
its just that in my layman opinion the higher bit rates sound more beautiful and clearer - in a way, and i am a rough bastard. give me 8 bit - yeah

also i am not too fussed about the USB audio part as i adore the full
VA SYNTH hardware sound with the good old D/A converters feel to it.
I am myself just worried about how long it will work with my good ol' LOGIC 5.5.1.

I know already that the TI is up there with the greatest sounding synths ever made if not the greatest. i just hope i can get to use it straight away and worry about changing my recording program in the far future.

The wavetable sounds demos if the tunes used lower registers would have shown what a new world it is capable of. I often musk around with a ROLAND V-SYNTH at the shop , but the texture of the VIRUS TI wavetable is really different.

anyway sorry about upsetting you, your pursuits for quality is great.

i should actually start a topic for 16 bit vs higher bits.
in another part of this FORUM. i believe it changes the aesthetics and recording really should utilise this aesthetics idea.