matching oscillator tones

[Hollowcell]

Originally Posted by Juho L

My explanations might be a little "bit weird".

To say the least, but I still understood your explanation.

[AjmaGard]

I think the main issue is to keep the main osc. (the loudest) at one of the 'root-keys' (0, +12, +24, -12, -24). In that way you can't go all wrong
Then just tweak the other osc. until you think it sounds the way you want.

[Juho L]

Originally Posted by AjmaGard

I think the main issue is to keep the main osc. (the loudest) at one of the 'root-keys' (0, +12, +24, -12, -24). In that way you can't go all wrong :)
Then just tweak the other osc. until you think it sounds the way you want.

As I mentioned above this doesn't work if you do chords. Minor and major just don't mix no matter how you set "the root key".

[AjmaGard]

Well of course, I just took by default that he didn't play chords since called his sound 'noises' or something somewhere and because he mentioned that he knew nothing about theory...

[the_bod]

Originally Posted by Juho L

I indeed do have time, but the reason why I haven't made a chord tutorial is that I'm no 100% competent with correct musical theory. My explanations might be a little "bit weird".

But it seems that no-one else is able to make such tutorial, so I might make one.

yeh.. that would be really good..
the problem i have with the books i have is that they are a really dry read, and theyre all focussed on old playing chords from known songs like beatles tunes..
maybe if they were to use, i dunno, kraftwerk songs or something it would be easier

cheers

[Blank]

Minor and major can mix if you use a chord modulation in your composing (ie relative minor or parallel minor, from a major...)

Now back to the subject
just remember this....!!IF you are playing just C on the keyboard!!
(relative to +)

0=C
1=C#
2=D
3=D#
4=E
5=F
6=F#
7=G
8=G#
9=A
10=A#
11=B
12=C (octave up)

(relative to minus)

0=C
1=B
2=A#
3=A
4=G#
5=G
6=F#
7=F
8=E
9=D#
10=D
11=C#
12=C (octave up)

And Juho is right your problem is when you change the Tune of you osc's and are play chords its going to sound horrible because its all relative to your tune setting...ie if you have the first osc set to +2 and you play C on the keyboard you are actually playing D but if you play D on the keyboard you are playing E on the keyboard and if you play E you are actually playing F# which is where you will run into problems...

My advices is to do either of these 2 things for right now to help you along...later you can experiment...but for right now do this....

1. when changing the tone of the osc's you should try to stick to on note but if you want you can play more i personally wouldnt go over 2 notes simultaneously until you get more comfortable to tonality...

2. key the semi tones on the 0 +12 +24 +36 +48, 0 -12 -24 -36 -48 settings when you play chords and make the chord the way you tune your song...Playing different chords will change the sound of the patch...not dramatically but it will sound different... it will sound more solid if you worked on playing chords in your songs rather then detuning the osc and playing single notes to get crazy sounds...

Just remember that listing i posted above it should help out when trying to figure out if something is in tune or not...but remember that was only in reference to using C as the starting point

peace
Blank

[Juho L]

Originally Posted by Blank

Minor and major can mix if you use a chord modulation in your composing (ie relative minor or parallel minor, from a major...)

I meant simulatenously. Of couse you'll then get majorminor chord, but that's one of the most useless chords on earth.

Hey Blank, I've asked this before, but would you make a small chord tutorial? Just short tutorial with the basic stuff.

And a good way to learn chords is this: http://nfo.net/MFILE/

Probably all chords as a java applet. Very useful.

[Blank]

I suppose i could try working on it...my life is pretty active right now tho...mostly work...then studio work but ill do my best to see what i can do...my biggest problem right now is i keep going through my 256 sounds i made and finding bad patches that i keep remaking...that damn soundset should have been released along time ago...damnit i still have to make the freaking website too...Ill see what i can do Juho...

peace
Blank

[ledge]

I can't remember where I found this link, I don't think it was here but it may have been.

Anyway, http://www.musictheory.net/ is a great place to start with music theory. I am learning heaps from there.

[Juho L]

http://www.sunesha.nu/virusforum/viewtopic.php?p=22668

I made a sticky thread for links to tutorials and guides about music theory and making music.