Disapointed in TI bass patchs.. - Page 3 - The Unofficial Access Virus & Virus TI Forum

Guzzy · #21 27.02.2006, 10:32 AM

http://www.jam.se/vintage.html

MADSTATION · #22 27.02.2006, 02:43 PM

mnj: Have a look @ the main synth config and while browsing the bass patches, just select "disableAllReverb" and "disableAllDelay" to hear the patches in their "raw" format

Khazul · #23 27.02.2006, 04:29 PM

That feature is so useful I wish there was a disable all fx toggle on the front panel for it.

Maybe a good feature suggest - make Shift+Edit FX toggle the FX on/off for audition purposes...

MADSTATION · #24 27.02.2006, 06:30 PM

Or what could be great(feature suggestion):

Keyboard shortcut(on the computer) that can be set within VC to trigger events on the hardware. So let's say SHIFT+F12 = disable all fx, etc.

Khazul · #25 27.02.2006, 07:21 PM

Stuff like that is at the mercy of the Steinberg VST plugin design - worth asking, but I suspect there nothing Access can do about it, unless the plugin UI is currently selected.

Sleepwalker · #26 01.03.2006, 07:23 AM

Hey, there was this little swedish analog synth posted here a while ago. Realy sexy little beast, with a joystick. Someone remember this one? Think it was limited to only 100 units or so...

Khazul · #27 01.03.2006, 07:41 AM

Are you thinking of this one?

Sleepwalker · #28 04.03.2006, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khazul

Are you thinking of this one?

Nope, ive got that one

It was a smal box, with a joystick, and some controllers. Only 100 was made, or so...

Well actualy im getting a waldorf pulse realy cheap now (about $300), so im starting with that, and the software editor. Should be a nice starting/learning point to the real analog world.

All my present synths are digital!

DIGITAL SCREAMS · #29 04.03.2006, 09:54 PM

The pulse will be a good place to start for analog. Once you get a feel for what analog mono's do....you might even try out vintage analogs....which generally speaking sound warmer and more characterful than the pulse. But the pulse is a good place to start for sure. Hope you like it...

DS

soundsubs · #30 04.03.2006, 11:54 PM

i have to chime in here and strongly disagree--- the virus IS good for bass.
in the old analogs (which ive had almost all of) you have to remember some rules when making your virus stand up to them:

-try using one oscillator instead of 2, 3, or unison. i forget this myself, but some of the punchiest fattest synths (303, sh101, monopoly, pro-one) had a single oscillator

-the "punch" that a lot of analogs have is not the filter, but the VCA. many of the old monosynths including the minimoog exhibited the "vca mistake" as bob moog called it--- where the vca would hang up for a couple milliseconds before moving on to the next stage. this is almost the same effect you can get with compression. but my point is dont just turn up the sustain to full and everything else to 0. a little spike = more punch

-yes, turn off the effects. you'll find even tempo sync'ed delay can weaken the hardness of a bassline. bone dry! even distortion can take out the smack of a sound, since it usually reduces dynamic level

-use the envelope filter to give more punch. to simplify this outside of a classroom, 2 envelopes running through each other are twice as punchy as one because of the way it works out mathematically. dont be afraid to use an lfo or other mod source to additionally envelope a sound.

-experiment with the filters. the moog ladder is great for moog bass. if you dont have a recent virus, work with the different saturation levels.

-post processing. theres nothing wrong with recording a virus as audio and processing it with a compressor with a slow attack to get some snap.

best of luck.