Compressor round up!

[Hollowcell]

Originally Posted by Tomer=Trance

Ok this might come as a suprise.

What about buying software! 8O
UAD1 with clasic compressor and eq boundle,is it realy importent for you hollow to run everything in analog via your desk?

The main reasons are:
Latency.
Computer screens.
Mouse clicks.
Quick routing and effects chaining.

Having things in the real world relm for as long as possible is much more inspirational for me.

Another reason is I'm planning on doing some more "real band" recording and I'd rather deal with hardware when I'm dealing with other peoples time.

Originally Posted by Panopticon

Is there a reason you must buy used? The FMR is cheap enough that even new it's not gonna kill you. The sound is almost on par with my Focusrite Red, I think it definitely blows away anything until you get into the $1000+ category.

Yeah true Pan. I was just hoping to maximise my cash to pick some other stuff too. The way it's looking though, (and judging by opinions) I'll be better off buying the RNC than trying to save the money.

[Tomer=Trance]

Originally Posted by Hollowcell

Another reason is I'm planning on doing some more "real band" recording and I'd rather deal with hardware when I'm dealing with other peoples time.

better just get a blinky box with lots of flashing lights and put a UV into it ,that would impress them even more
i heard of people buying huge broken desks exacly for that purpose even tho they run everything thru a convertor and into the computer.
"hmmm computer recording? that sounds amatuar...im not paying top dollars for that!"

[Onkel Dunkel]

Well i understand you HC. I hate messing around with the mouse trying to do something that can be done in less than half the time on hardware. If it?s really anoying it makes me do things "the easy way" instead of "the right way" Anyway i like the felling of actually getting something besides a CD-ROM
One exception though: I belive that software sequensers are far easier to work with than hardware sequensers...

[Tomer=Trance]

you want contol and hw feel?
look at the new toy 303 bought...

[Onkel Dunkel]

Naahhh, i just got my Fantom X7 yesterday. That should be enough to satisfy my gear lust for a while At least i?m broke now

[AlexHall74]

OK, as far as compressors are concerned:

Is it not true that ONLY a hardware compressor placed in the signal path BEFORE a signal is recorded can prevent CLIPPING?

<Jase, help me out here!>

So, a software compressor can effectively act as a hardware compressor on a recorded signal that has not exceeded 0dB in the digital domain, BUT it cannot stop a vocal or clean guitar signal from clipping as it is recorded.

I have alwayse been led to believe (by a few sources) that it is best to record as such:

SOURCE->PREAMP->COMPRESSOR->Recording INTERFACE

Unless of course you are all digital...

Am I on the right track or full of shite?!



-Alex

[Onkel Dunkel]

Originally Posted by AlexHall74

OK, as far as compressors are concerned:

Is it not true that ONLY a hardware compressor placed in the signal path BEFORE a signal is recorded can prevent CLIPPING?

<Jase, help me out here!>

So, a software compressor can effectively act as a hardware compressor on a recorded signal that has not exceeded 0dB in the digital domain, BUT it cannot stop a vocal or clean guitar signal from clipping as it is recorded.

I have alwayse been led to believe (by a few sources) that it is best to record as such:

SOURCE->PREAMP->COMPRESSOR->Recording INTERFACE

Unless of course you are all digital...

Am I on the right track or full of shite?!



-Alex

I think i read something semilar to what you?r saying in some guide on the internet...

[Tomer=Trance]

few are the insrtuments which will clip doring recording...
maybe bass but usualy a good bass player cerfuly controls the timbre of his instrument.

[AlexHall74]

Tomer wrote:
few are the insrtuments which will clip doring recording...
maybe bass but usualy a good bass player cerfuly controls the timbre of his instrument.

Maybe so, I guess a hardware compressor can provide a sort of insurance that a software compressor cannot; but it can be lived without if one deals with musicians (and vocalists too ) that know what they are doing.

I'm interested to hear the experiences of others on this topic as I am sure there is quite a variance.



-Alex

[Hollowcell]

Originally Posted by Tomer=Trance

few are the insrtuments which will clip doring recording...
maybe bass but usualy a good bass player cerfuly controls the timbre of his instrument.

You really have no idea a lot of the time do you Tommer?

The idea behind have a compressor before the recording stage is not only to stop clipping, but also to get the most out of the sound.

Buy controlling the peaks (even slightly) of the signal before entering the computer you can in turn get a fuller sound recorded. 24bit depth can go some way to help when recording a signal with many highs and lows, as 24bit gives more range to process after the signal is recorded, but still.....

You have to remember if you are recording real instruments you are usually recording mic'ed up amps, not guitars plugged straight into the desk. Often different effects can be gained by doing things like placing a compressor before or after the amp stage ect....

When recording live bands/musos they don't really have the time to be fucking around with plugs, latency or menus navigation. You wanna route signals differently? - just press a few buttons on the desk and you're ready to go. The computer should be set up for instant mulittrack recording in my opinion.

You should really get into a half decent hardware studio Tommer. Either that or try recording a few diffrenent sorts or music.


Anyway back to the original topic.

Yes, I wanna hardware compressor!

So any more opinions?