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Originally Posted by TweakHead
Yeah, no sympathy for people who have never blown speakers!
On Hanz Zimmer's interview on Access's website he says exactly the same: that he turned to the Mini Moog for extreme bass.
I know for a fact that most EDM producers use digital synths for Bass. It's mainly got to do with precision: since there's usually the option to lock the phase on the oscillators. Either that, or use other sources, such as Analogue, but sampled. And it's no easy task: you have to record many notes for the same note, and choose the best sounding one (for all of them)...
That's mainly what's happened here:
http://www.spectrasonics.net/products/trilian.php
This product is done like that: a lot of good sources, sampled carefully and ready to go. (I think it doesn't include the growl bass shit, however )
But I somehow miss the all over the place, more organic and unprecise synth bass. I think the BPM has gone way up, nowadays, because you can trully get more precision with digital sequencers and synths, and sampling... I mean, you couldn't possibly expect an analogue synth to cope with 160bpm KBBB bass, that's why you'd see much more glide taking place on the 90's rave scene then nowadays... The TB303 era, so to speak... Most modern synths still sell on the basis of recreating that kind of filter for squelchy delights, and analogue warmth, and distortion still sells to... So Bass is probably the area where it shows people want the best of both worlds, nowadays...
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Right-on! Now, unlike some of the shits on other forums that either LOVE to hate on the Virus OR seemingly always want to get into this debate over whether true analog is only VCO rather than DCO, (even Dave Smith has said many times over that the DCO is real analog with only exception of **digital stabilization** of frequency, hence no tuning issues), I DO wonder if a DCO would be more apt to get to those insane speeds with it's accuracy in and not so much 'glide'...just a thought?!
The analog halves of the Evolvers CAN get nice and juicy with right twiddling, but for LESS than a price of a DSI Mopho with it's 2 DCO's and 2 subharmonoic osc's, we can soon buy the Korg MS20(mini but same monster sound and exact circuitry VCO's) and SO easily have a very capable rumbling, growling, fell-in-your-brain-bass monosynth that's got a quite massive modulation patch-bay panel that could be enough to tickle people to grow other modular pieces thereof.
I am on speculating here but mark my words, Korg could quite *possibly* then re-release a mini-MSQ20 (the analog sequencer of same shape) and the couple others or even brand new addition to this line as well
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Back when I had the orig. and had learned much about it and was firstly an enlisted in US Air Force, we had dormatory rooms very much like college campus's do and once a week our Flight Commander would go through and perform inspections, mainly for cleanliness, etc. I had rigged the MS20 in a closable desk cabinet with a microphone connected to either cv or external audio with a program I had dialed-in that sounded JUST LIKE original video game Space Invader's laser-firing-off when the mic had detected a sound loud enough to set it off, of course leaving everything on, the small amp and monitors. I remember getting a direct call on the Motorola Radio hanging from my belt from her, my commander, asking, "HOW DO YOU STOP THIS??!", with of course the sound of laser fire from fast envelopes with pink noise and high pass filter in background of her voice!!!
I did not get in any trouble and she simply unplugged everything to turn it off--just ONE of the very fond memories I have of this beast! Thought you might enjoy a blast from my intestinal past! HA!
The Korg sites gives you the specs and imagine having TWENTY SECOND attack time and equal decay for a sound that blows away any roland-ish 303 sound....have never really been a fan of 303 sound but I do appreciate its place in synt/music history. Matter in fact, the orig. 303 was NOT a big seller for roland rather, it was indeed the music and dj scene of 90's that brought that from it's relative grave and like you said (I think), roland would be truely missing the boat, since there's SO MANY imitators of that box to this day.
Lastly, if you go to DSI website and click on the huge image of Prophet 12 firstly all over page and then click on that video of dave doing a cool but short teaser of the Prophet 12...look in the background on a Prophet 5, he has a liquer bottle of tiquila WITH a FULL shot glass sitting there just waiting for him!!! I just noticed that and am sure that was not an oversight by this man!!!