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Old 29.01.2014, 06:02 PM
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Exclamation Any Virus C users here who can do this? (rumour is a TI can't do this...)

bla bla bla

Once again I noticed how helpfull most members are here.
I have edited the original post just to stop the flaming.
I'm outta here.
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Old 29.01.2014, 08:13 PM
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1) None of the vids showed the steps (parameters) to get the sounds.

2) There are no controlled processes and environments.

3) Obviously a camcorder microphone in the room recording the speakers is going to sound vastly different to a dry input.

Therefore any comparisons would be null and void.
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Old 29.01.2014, 08:20 PM
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1) None of the vids showed the steps (parameters) to get the sounds.

2) There are no controlled environments and processes.

3) Obviously a camcorder microphone in the room recording the speakers is going to sound different to a dry input.

Therefore any comparisons would be null and void.
But do you think it's true and can you do it?
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Old 29.01.2014, 08:34 PM
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I'm unsure if it's true as I don't have either.

If I had a TI, I'd test it alongside my Indigo (B-series), unfortunately I don't have a TI.

You would also have to use a huge wealth of controlled conditions to compare the two. It's not as easy as just loading a patch into both synths, playing a MIDI routine and recording the output.

I hear a lot of TI users say that the analog-outputs sound considerably better than piping the audio over USB. This would figure seeing as the TI's D/As are 192KHz 24-bit, rather than the 44.1KHz 16-bit limitation of audio being piped through USB.

I believe any audible differences will likely be the different D/A converters, volume discrepancies (seeing as the TI has balanced outputs, while the C doesn't), and analogue outputs vs. USB.

I don't think the sound engine itself will have changed. Providing you strictly use only features that are available on the C when comparing.
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Old 30.01.2014, 03:36 PM
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maybe some other users can help me out here?
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Old 30.01.2014, 05:40 PM
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He Erol, i made this sometime ago using that youtube clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNHFC...ature=youtu.be

Grtz
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He Erol, i made this sometime ago using that youtube clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNHFC...ature=youtu.be

Grtz
nice job.

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Old 30.01.2014, 08:20 PM
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@erol

Have you bought the Virus to use it as a rom player? Just patch browing? And, likewise, do you use the foruns only to ask someone else do to the sound design for you?

And how's that working out for you? Spending 2k on an instrument you're unwilling to learn, spending time on foruns full of tips and continuously asking other users to send you patches.

To the point someone has to say this to you: focus on learning the instrument and if you really want to do something with music, no pack of samples, no preset bank, no magic dust is going to lead you there, it's up to you and you alone. So... Do yourself a favour and start tweaking those knobs.
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Old 30.01.2014, 08:39 PM
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Have you bought the Virus to use it as a rom player? Just patch browing?
Yes I did. The virus only plays samples right? There are no oscillators here.

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And, likewise, do you use the foruns only to ask someone else do to the sound design for you?
Yes I do. If you look up the word forum in the dictionary, it says "place to ask someone else to do your sound design.

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And how's that working out for you? Spending 2k on an instrument you're unwilling to learn, spending time on foruns full of tips and continuously asking other users to send you patches.
It's working fine actually. Got to much money to spend and to much time to browse the Internet.

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To the point someone has to say this to you: focus on learning the instrument and if you really want to do something with music, no pack of samples, no preset bank, no magic dust is going to lead you there, it's up to you and you alone. So... Do yourself a favour and start tweaking those knobs.
I can't. I'm stupid and lazy. Sorry. If I grow up I want to be just like you..

You're totally missing the point here.
I'm not asking for patches here. Only if member only own a Virus C and not a TI.
I'm really curious if the rumors are true about the difference in sound when you load the same patch in both synths. MP3 will do too.
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Yes I did. The virus only plays samples right? There are no oscillators here.
Funny, I always see the three oscillators on both my Virus KB/KC and the only *samples* always see are the "Spectral Waveforms" available as more or less "Alt Waveforms" that can be used AS the *oscillator's waveforms and yes, even LFO's*

You really need to engage the interface of this wonderful hardware synthesizer...a true synth. A great analogy is simple fact that playing an engaging video game with awesome graphics where you are the 'virtual driver' in an all out urban maniacal race, is *nowhere near* the same as being behind an actual high performance car and expecting it to drive *just like the video game* with no effort put into it yourself.

Much like in my military career, those same *made for military* combat war games virtual reality high performance games intended to prepare one for hazardous really scary *real combat* in Iraq, et al, is NOTHING like the real thing, no matter what they say. But most people die so the complaints are literally from dead ears ON deaf ears!!
Meaning; the Virus is not going to program itself, other than a random generator in which you learn absolutely nothing in process UNLESS you take said sound apart, looking at all the pretty LED's that are indicative of those parameters within.
Taking apart presets and doing a type of "autopsy" if you will, is rewarding and can be educational...and then there's that book again from Access for download if you did not get it with your Virus' manuals by Howard Scarr, "Programming Analogue Synths".
I have recommended this book to point having it tattooed in reverse on your forehead as to be reminded each time you look into mirror, would save me from repeatedly giving same advice.
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