virus ti Vs sylenth1

[00264167]

having just brought a virus ti im surprised to find alot of the time im prefering the sound of sylenth over the virus.
to me the sylenth oscillators sound fatter and more up front than the virus even with the unison mode high. perhaps i havent had it long enough but at the moment im thinking have i just blown a whole load of cash for not much that i didnt have already with sylenth.

[evoluxion]

Originally Posted by 00264167

having just brought a virus ti im surprised to find alot of the time im prefering the sound of sylenth over the virus.
to me the sylenth oscillators sound fatter and more up front than the virus even with the unison mode high. perhaps i havent had it long enough but at the moment im thinking have i just blown a whole load of cash for not much that i didnt have already with sylenth.

Joke post?

Or one of the many virus bashers on KVR?

[00264167]

no, im serious. ive had the kc aswell but yesterday i was comparing the virus ti presets and sylenth1 presets side by side and there are some sounds that one can do that the other cant but for alot of them i thought sylenth was better and easier to program.

[evoluxion]

Originally Posted by 00264167

no, im serious. ive had the kc aswell but yesterday i was comparing the virus ti presets and sylenth1 presets side by side and there are some sounds that one can do that the other cant but for alot of them i thought sylenth was better and easier to program.

I have sylenth and disagree with you completely.

i bought a virus ti because the vst sound is thin.

[00264167]

Originally Posted by evoluxion

I have sylenth and disagree with you completely.

i bought a virus ti because the vst sound is thin.

most softsynths do sound thin but sylenth certainly doesnt imo. i would say bass sounds bigger in the virus than most other hard and softsynths though.

[Monobeat]

I just picked up Sylenth this weekend as well. I have to disagree with you. I will surely continue to program with it, and try to coax the power you are finding with it....

Nothing yet. Another dissappointing VA VST...

In terms of VST, I love the older recreations from Arturia. The sound of those plugins is stable, predictable, and recallable. That's where VSTs shine in my book. I say, leave the heavy programming and synth automation to a good hardware synth. Virus Analog Outs 4 Eva!!!!!!!!

[Dusk]

Interesting discussion. Long term lurker, first time poster, bought a Virus TI desktop around 6 months ago.

I was going to write a long essay on the journey Ive had with the synth, oscillating (get it) between thinking "this is no better than my VSTs" and "this is in a different league to my VSTs"...but Ill keep it short! IMO with good convertors on your system, VSTS such as Sylenth are pretty much identical to the Virus in terms of sound quality. So what IS the difference?

In short;

1) no other synth can generate such an incrediably wide range of sounds (the new oscillator modes took this thing to an unprecedented level)
2) no other synth does each to a generally excellent quality
3) no other synth uses hardware DSP controlled through the most beautifully designed and intuitive plug in interface
4) no other synth features on board FX of this quality
5) no other synth does all this multitimbrally across 16 parts.

That is all.

[chromatic]

Originally Posted by Dusk

1) no other synth can generate such an incrediably wide range of sounds (the new oscillator modes took this thing to an unprecedented level)
2) no other synth does each to a generally excellent quality
3) no other synth uses hardware DSP controlled through the most beautifully designed and intuitive plug in interface
4) no other synth features on board FX of this quality
5) no other synth does all this multitimbrally across 16 parts.

That is all.

Hello ^_-

1) it certainly can have a wide range of sounds but for the price of a Virus Ti you can buy MANY soft synth who use many different type of synthesis and each will do his own time quite well...
Still good point for the virus is being able to use all those type of sound with always the same interface and hardware controler...

2) maybe, maybe not...it depend on each person opinion

3) ok with that ^_-

4) YES but in exchange you cant use individual effect plugins for each part... by using virus ti, you have all the 16 parts assigned directly to only ONE track of your sequencer... so if you want to use external effect plugins it will affect all track of the virus... wich off course is not usable...
By using softsynth, each instance use a different track on your sequencer and so you can use any HIGH QUALITY plugins you want for each... and i bet many Audio unit or vst plug ins revern or others sound better than virus one...

5) true... but what if you need 17 part ?
you can open as many Sylenth instance as you want... 32 if you want....

6) dont forget the latency you get when playing the virus Ti inside your sequencer, the fact that all the 16 part are not available as "one per track" in your sequencer is a problem too, not being able to freeze Virus ti track or to Bounce it faster than real time is a problem.

I love the virus, but its very subjective and i dont understand why a soft synth would never be capable of doing same as a virus. After all a virus is same as a soft synth, dsp and program... then yes like peoples sade, converted and other things play a part in final quality... wich is maybe why the virus sound slightly better than sylenth... then again.... the virus is 20 times more expensive ... ( at least where iam)

so for the price of a virus Ti, it would be possible to buy Sylenth+ very good plugins (reverb, delay etc) + very good soundcard with good converter.... and then...

everything is possible, Virus is top of my list, but Sylenth is very surprising...

[Crossfire]

Originally Posted by chromatic

4) YES but in exchange you cant use individual effect plugins for each part... by using virus ti, you have all the 16 parts assigned directly to only ONE track of your sequencer... so if you want to use external effect plugins it will affect all track of the virus... wich off course is not usable...
By using softsynth, each instance use a different track on your sequencer and so you can use any HIGH QUALITY plugins you want for each... and i bet many Audio unit or vst plug ins revern or others sound better than virus one...

5) true... but what if you need 17 part ?
you can open as many Sylenth instance as you want... 32 if you want....

All 16 parts of the Virus don't have to be run through only ONE track of the sequencer. Firstly you can use the 3 separate USB outs and then the 3 audio outputs as well all of which can then be separately processed with your software FX.

Rendering is bit annoying compared to software but the TI is as 'integrated' as it gets for an external hardware synth.

Can your CPU handle 32 instances of Sylenth?

[synthfiend]

i guess it comes down to personal preference in the end..

i can say though, after using softsynths for while on a MBP + controller, i do prefer using my Polar. For me it is the immediacy as a performance instrument that makes it soo good....much nicer than having your head stuck in a computer