Modular synthesis explained?

[Hollowcell]

Originally Posted by Tomer=Trance

is that the roland system in that picture?

Yeh, System 700. It was on an Auction here in Japan a while ago.

The is no doubt DSP technolgy is catching up fast, but I erge everyone ot sit down with a well known analogue machine now.

Listening to an analogue that has been recorded isn't enough - sure they sound good, but there is an undifinable warmth that doesn't translate well in recordings. Didn't believe it myself until doing it.

I'm sure most of you heard those clips I put up of my CS-10 (if not, click the soundclick link in my sig). That thing is a single OSC, single filter mono-synth, but the bass end has so much presence and the filter is bloody aggressive! Wish I could invite you guys into my studio so you could hear it pre-recording.

Don't get me wrong though, I love my DSP based VAs. There are things my VAs can do that I wouldn't dream of doing on an old analogue. Midi synced LFO madness for one.

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

HC I have no doubt the CS-10 is a great little bass machine. Even better is a SCI Pro-One or Korg Mono-Poly. If u heared one of those beasts coming out of a decent pair of monitors it would make u poop ur panties hehehe.

The bass from the Pro-One is my all time favourite. To me its the perfect bass tone - dirty, naturally aggressive, woody, tight and warm. Its just superb. Id have a Pro-One over a Minimoog anyday. The Mono-Poly makes softer, warmer and slightly fatter bass. Perfect partnership.

For a VA the Virus puts out respectable bass. Im aware of the fact that alot of people use softsynths and VA's for bass.......Its just something I choose not to do. Ill program bass on the Virus......but I'd never use it.

In my opinion if the people making dance/trance and techno started using more analog mono's in their music (and I think some of them are) then I think the overall quality and feel of their tracks would improve. I know the Pulse is startng to heavily feature within the scene now.

DS

[anykeystudio]

Yes, dance music producer use more analog monster bass synth?s. In a good sound system there is a difference between a EQ boosted Soft-synth compared to analog bass monster (like the SCI Pro-One).

[jasedee]

Originally Posted by anykeystudio

In a good sound system there is a difference between a EQ boosted Soft-synth compared to analog bass monster (like the SCI Pro-One).

Yes, but will the average punter, high as a kite on ecstacy and other amphetamines, really give a shit??? It all sounds the same when you are f*cked up.......and the aim is just to dance, to anything really, as long as it has a beat. The only ones that can tell are the ones making the music, and the guys like us here that are obsessed with getting great sounds.

Something to consider I guess??? When making a product, you have to think about to whom the product is aimed at.....is it aimed at the geeks, like us, or the ravers? Or the DJ's etc.....Or Radio, and then it is so heavily processed by multi-band compression that it probably wouldnt make a difference if the sounds were analogue, digital, or from my ass!!!

Hmmm......What was this topic about again?

Jase

[anykeystudio]

Fuck the rest Make music for the geeks like me.

[Hollowcell]

Originally Posted by jasedee

Something to consider I guess??? When making a product, you have to think about to whom the product is aimed at

I hate thinking like this when it comes to making music.

The electronic genres are becomming too commercialised and it's really starting to show. People crushing the shit out of tracks to get that "commercial volume" arrg. Or happy to find the preset in their softsynth that matches their favourite club track.

Lot's of people can't hear the difference in music, but these aren't the people I'm making music for - I'm making tunes for me. It's my form of art and that's all.

I think compareing current VA sound againt Analogue is kind of like comparing old vs new guitars, mics, amps and desks. Some people like the sound of one or the other, but most of the listeners on the street can't really tell which is which.

[jasedee]

I agree HC, it is a shame to start thinking of music as a "product", but for alot of people it is just that. A business, too.

I think for alot of people they are trying to achieve artistic fulfillment, but that alone wont pay the bills. And I for one dont want to be working in a cafe or office the rest of my life. Fuck that! And what are the chances that my Art will sustain me and help me provide for my family? I hope it will, but I guess I am a bit too much of a realist......

Hmmm.....But then again, of we are not trying to obtain artistic fulfillment, or following our passion, regardless of whether it will lead to self sufficiency, then what would be the point of life?

I am getting too heavy now....

[Hollowcell]

Yeh it is getting a bit heavy (and a bit off the original topic), but why not.....

I have never been really hopefull that my music will get me anywhere. I've never sent a demo out or tried meeting the "right" people. I think it would spoil my passion. Having said that though, if someone wants to professionally master my old tracks and release them, they can go right ahead.

Working in a nice studio recording other bands (tracking, mixing, mastering or even assisting) would be nice though. That wouldn't take away from my own creativity too much.

What was this topic again?! hehehe. Oh yes modulars. I took a look at the G2 video linked from the clavia site. Man that looks like a nice synth!

[Blank]

it is and i just started cracking the surface of it...

peace
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[Hollowcell]

I thought you bought the NL3 and not the G2 Blank?