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Juho L · #1 19.01.2005, 03:50 PM

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I'm really wondering what the VA section will sound like...

Medicore at best.

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I believe the aliasing on the virus is one of the worst I've ever heard.

Won't be a problem on TI.

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Maybe they will make the whole thing available in separate modules as well...Would be quite cool!

I might say that this is one of the won't-happens - unfortunately.

F5D · #2 19.01.2005, 05:33 PM

Does the new TI line use higher sample rate for processing? The converters sure are better but that doesn't affect on aliasing. In my opinion, the aliasing is a very big part in virus sound. It won't sound virus anymore if they make it free of aliasing like Alesis Ion etc.

Juho L · #3 19.01.2005, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by F5D

Does the new TI line use higher sample rate for processing?

196kHz 24-bit internal processing...

MADSTATION · #4 19.01.2005, 06:09 PM

If there is much less aliasing on the TI...Then the thing is gonna sound different(I would be happy with that but I can see why some ppl would not like that)...Unless aliasing is a new option on the TI(set the ammount of aliasing, dont know if thats possible), quite a few patches would not sound the same no?

Juho L · #5 19.01.2005, 06:14 PM

The higher processing rate wont change the overall sound (unless the algorithms aren't the same). The aliasing is just reduced and the overall itnernal mixing is smoother.

MADSTATION · #6 19.01.2005, 06:30 PM

Thanks

F5D · #7 20.01.2005, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Juho L

196kHz 24-bit internal processing...

Can you please give me a link to the original information page. I only found the info that the converters are 196kHz 24bit (Access Music website).

In fact, if the system now runs @ 196kHz, the DSPs must be many more times faster than the previous ones because I think the Virus B/C uses only 48kHz processing? So they should have used 4x the power of the C's DSP to reach 196kHz and then another 3-4x to reach the huge polyphony count. I still don't believe that they use 196kHz internal processing. If they did, they would have talked much louder about aliasing free synth (which virus definitely hasn't been).

But I may be wrong. It would be very cool to see and hear a virus free of aliasing.

Juho L · #8 20.01.2005, 03:35 AM

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Can you please give me a link to the original information page. I only found the info that the converters are 196kHz 24bit (Access Music website).

Now you can ask yourself: What one would do with 196kHz 24-bit DAC's if the DAC is feeded with data that's not even a half of 196kHz? They want to sample the same data over and over again for just in case? If the internal processing resolution would be, for example, 48kHz, then they would use 48kHz DAC's, because any rate higher of that would be waste.

Remember that TI has two top-notch DSP's.

Edit: By the way, isnt the B/C series sampling in 96kHz...

Merlot · #9 20.01.2005, 03:52 AM

Is anybody here contemplating using the TI as your soundcard via the outputs? Just curious. Defenitely cant replace built in mic pres, but might be nice for an on the go laptop/virus studio.

F5D · #10 20.01.2005, 01:11 PM

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Can you please give me a link to the original information page. I only found the info that the converters are 196kHz 24bit (Access Music website).

Now you can ask yourself: What one would do with 196kHz 24-bit DAC's if the DAC is feeded with data that's not even a half of 196kHz?

Remember that TI has two top-notch DSP's.

Edit: By the way, isnt the B/C series sampling in 96kHz...

Well, many systems use 96kHz or even 196kHz converters even they don't always/never work at that frequency. It's just popular these days and the product sells better if they use converters with higher sampling rates.

Even my RME soundcard can handle 196kHz but I usually work at 44kHz.

The new clavia nord lead 2x for example uses much better converters compared to the original nord lead 2 but the synth engine is still the same.

I guess the better converters are included with TI because one can use it also as an audio interface and high sample rates are very popular today. I still don't believe that the virus engine would run @ 196kHz untill I hear it from access.

I just want to hear / read the facts. I'm not absolutely sure about the sample rate of B/C, but I will search for information and report here whenever I'll find it. I use the virus powercore plugin @ 44/48kHz and it sounds all the same as virus B desktop. I have had a Virus B and a Virus KC and I have done lots of comparing between them.

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At least the Virus TI's spdif connector works @ 44/48kHz.

I sent email to access support. We will know this soon...