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DIGITAL SCREAMS
23.02.2005, 11:00 AM
What would you buy? Here in the UK I could buy an ION new for ?409 or an N2x for ?799.

Which would you buy? Any ION users in here?

DS

Merlot
23.02.2005, 01:53 PM
Getting the itch to spend that TI money arent you???? I would go with the ion. Have not had much experience with a nord though. The ion is nice, the casing is cheaply made, as is the keybed. The ion has a nice distinct sound to it also. Get out and play one, or both.

chinard
23.02.2005, 02:04 PM
I have heard very good things about the ION

One of the biggest sale points for me is that it has BALANCED OUTS!!
I'm so sick of "professional grade" keyboards that you still have to use DI boxes for when you play live.

Also, the big "hoopla" is the accuracy of the knobs and controllers.

Almost all digital synths including VA's is that the values for each knobs are only 8 bit. This means a granularity of only 256 points.
The ION is all 12 bit which will allow for 4096 points of resolution.
Plus the knobs are all 360 degree rotary encoders which means that you dont have to wory about "jumping"

AvS
23.02.2005, 03:15 PM
Its a matter of taste ofcourse. Im not into the "do it all" synths with tons of features. I just want simple but great sounds and as many knobs as possible. NL2x for me.

jasedee
23.02.2005, 09:58 PM
I would have to pick the N2x aswel......Im stingin' for a Nord

And those ION's look cheap n nasty.....

Hollowcell
24.02.2005, 08:06 AM
I'm sure most of you know how I feel about my Nord - I'd never trade for an ION, put it that way. :D

Still I wouldn't mind having in ION too. :wink:

Buy both with decent outboard multi FX and scrap the TI idea DS. I know you wanna.

DIGITAL SCREAMS
24.02.2005, 12:58 PM
Hehe HC......

Yep im itching to spend on a synth. Always wanted a N2 since 2000......it was the first synth I ever played on. But then I bought a SCI Pro-One. I think the N2 would be a good pick as its great for electro music.

Virus TI and N2 sounds like a good VA combo for me + all the other true analogs at my disposal.

Ill let u guys know what I do over the next few days. HC would u be up for some N2 patch swaps?

DS

Tomer=Trance
25.02.2005, 12:56 PM
it would be a better choice to go for virus ti+new powerful computer or dsp card for your exciting DAW.
this way you can record and work propely and not just fuck around with your synths. :D

saba
26.02.2005, 01:25 AM
I'm buying an Ion before a TI.
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Tomer=Trance
26.02.2005, 08:21 AM
sorry guys i still dont see a reason for having more then one hardware VA.
the ti is powerful enough to base a whole production upon.
why not use softsynths?
theres a huge veriaty now days which sound great!

jasedee
26.02.2005, 08:25 AM
sorry guys i still dont see a reason for having more then one hardware VA.
the ti is powerful enough to base a whole production upon.
why not use softsynths?
theres a huge veriaty now days which sound great!
Well....for one reason, VSTi's chew up your valuable processor resources, hardware does not. Another reason? I like something I can put my hands on and tweak....a mouse just wont do Im afraid.

And.....I just think compared to hardware, softsynths just sound shit

DIGITAL SCREAMS
26.02.2005, 10:46 AM
Ah Tommer.....suggesting softsynths.....sacrilige hehe!

Im 100% hardware......

Give me analog effects and tape machines over virtual stuff anyday!

*I was listening to an old 60's jazz recording and to my ears it sounded *nicer* than any Pro-Tools shite. But thats just me....im a stickler for organic recordings.

DS

Hollowcell
26.02.2005, 11:31 AM
sorry guys i still dont see a reason for having more then one hardware VA.
the ti is powerful enough to base a whole production upon.
why not use softsynths?
theres a huge veriaty now days which sound great!

Ahhh, you just jogged my memory! I have to get some samples of the Nord ready to show someone this very thing.

Software isn't quite there yet Tommer. It's getting there though.

DIGITAL SCREAMS
04.03.2005, 11:36 AM
HC.....ive just noticed that on the N2x in the filter section it allows you to use LP24 and Notch at the same time. Was this a function on the original N2?

Makes for some interesting sounds especially when coupled with the filter distortion and high resonance.

DS

Hollowcell
04.03.2005, 11:52 PM
Yep, that was on the original NL2. The only differences with them are the output quality and also the fact you don't need a PCMCIA card with the 2x.

So have you bought it already? Made any sounds yet?

Merlot
06.03.2005, 12:16 AM
Here is an interesting comparison between the nord 2 and 3. The 2 has more bottom end to my years.

http://sayersweb.com/studio/html/Nord_Lead_2_versus_3.html

Psypher
07.03.2005, 08:07 PM
Hi DIGITAL SCREAMS

I actually had the same question up here for a month ago or so, so check out those rreplies too (if you havn?t already)

I havn?t figured out what to buy yet though I have played around with both of them.

Alot of people are using the NL2, so some might say that you might get the same sound like they have? :? (dunno about that)

but the Ion is much fatter I guess, so if you go for more overview and more authentic VA that would be the choice (hate that 8 voice polyphony though! :( )

I found the knobs on the NL2 a little bad (Access could shurely learn them something there!) they are small and heavy to move (at least on the model I tried)......

I actually started to look at the G2 engine too (those 3 synth are all in the same price level here), so that could be a choice too, especially for me....

all those nice generators and FX and the idea of building a unique synth for each patch is nice I guess......

Anyone have any comments about the G2 (keyboard editions) or the engine?

Merlot
07.03.2005, 11:10 PM
Anyone have any comments about the G2 (keyboard editions) or the engine?

Check this forum and goto the Nord modular section

http://www.electro-music.com/forum/

Hollowcell
07.03.2005, 11:59 PM
I found the knobs on the NL2 a little bad (Access could shurely learn them something there!) they are small and heavy to move (at least on the model I tried)......


The knobs on mine do the same thing until it warms up. But once it warms up, they are really solid and move freely. The knobs and pots have lasted me years on the NL2, but the pots on some of my other (unnamed gear) have already come a little loose.

AvS
08.03.2005, 02:52 PM
I found the knobs on the NL2 a little bad (Access could shurely learn them something there!) they are small and heavy to move (at least on the model I tried)......



Really? I think the NL2 knobs are superb quality. Knobs with much resistance is a good thing IMO.

core7
11.03.2005, 01:33 AM
sorry guys i still dont see a reason for having more then one hardware VA.
the ti is powerful enough to base a whole production upon.
why not use softsynths?
theres a huge veriaty now days which sound great!
Well....for one reason, VSTi's chew up your valuable processor resources, hardware does not. Another reason? I like something I can put my hands on and tweak....a mouse just wont do Im afraid.

And.....I just think compared to hardware, softsynths just sound shit I 2nd that /\/\/\/\/\ ! :D